[1. Call to Order]
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          HEY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND. REGULAR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE. IF WE CAN KEEP THIS FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS. WE HAD A A FORMER EMPLOYEE FOR 38 YEARS. MY NAME IS LOIS LOIS DANNER, WHO PASSED AWAY. SO LET'S KEEP HER FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST THINK ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE SICK AND UNFORTUNATE NOT DOING WELL RIGHT NOW. SO KEEP THOSE IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TOO. 
          AS WE TAKE THIS MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE TWO SPECIAL GUESTS. I HAVE JOHN FROM GREEN HILL HIGH SCHOOL AND LUKE FROM MOUNT JULIET MIDDLE SCHOOL. THEY ARE BOTH BOY SCOUTS HERE LOCALLY. IF THEY CAN PLEASE STAND UP AND COME TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM, THEY ARE GOING TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGE. SO IF EVERYBODY COULD PLEASE STAND UP. AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE READY, GENTLEMEN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. GREAT JOB, YOUNG MAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. MOTION TO ADOPT. SECOND. 
          [3.1 Adopt the Agenda]
MOTION A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. 
          [4.1 Watertown High School Theatre Group - Edie Pope]
MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. ITEM 4.1, WATERTOWN HIGH SCHOOL THEATER GROUP. MISS POPE, ARE YOU HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE MIC OR DO YOU HAVE THE MIC? THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. HELLO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I AM SVEN HEPLER JUNIOR AND I AM LUKE SMITH, SENIOR. CASSIDY ELDRIDGE, SENIOR AS WELL. WE REPRESENT THE WATERTOWN PURPLE TIGER THEATER. AND I HUMBLY INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME TO OUR FALL PERFORMANCE. THE SOMEWHAT TRUE TALE OF ROBIN HOOD, WHERE I PLAY AS ROBIN HOOD AND I PLAY THE SHERIFF OF NOTTINGHAM, AND MY ROLE IS STAGE MANAGER, THE PURPLE TIGER THEATER HAS ALSO DONE THREE OTHER PRODUCTIONS THIS FALL SEMESTER IN SEPTEMBER, WE DID FOUNDER'S DAY IN WATERTOWN. IN OCTOBER, WE PERFORMED AT THE FOURTH GRADE FIELD TRIP IN FIDDLER'S GROVE, AND TONIGHT WE WILL BE. WE WILL BE PERFORMING FOR YOU ALL. IN 2021. WE HAD GONE BACK TO SCHOOL FROM COVID. WE HAD STRUGGLED TO PERFORM INDOORS WITH AUDIENCES. SO OUR TEACHER, MISS POPE, COMPRISED A CHARACTER WALK THAT PUT TOGETHER HISTORICAL FIGURES FROM WATERTOWN. THE COMPANY PERFORMED OUTDOORS IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. IT BECAME SO POPULAR THAT IT HAS NOW BECOME AN ANNUAL TRADITION. THIS YEAR, WE WILL BEGIN ON DECEMBER 5TH AT 3 P.M. ONE OF OUR CHARACTERS WILL BE REPRESENTING THE GRANDMOTHER OF WILSON L WALTERS. FOUNDER OF WATERTOWN. TONIGHT, SHE'LL BE WAITING ON HER SON WILSON T AS CHRISTMAS TIME IN 1814. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I PRESENT ADDISON TYE JUNIOR AT WATERTOWN HIGH SCHOOL. GOOD AFTERNOON SIR. 
          MADAM. YOU LOOK AS THOUGH YOU'RE LOST. ARE YOU ON YOUR WAY TO THE GENERAL STORE? WHY DON'T YOU COME WITH ME? I'M JUST WAITING ON THE LAWRENCES. WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO VISIT THE GENERAL STORE, AND WE'LL PASS THE STORE ON THE WAY. WILSON JUST CAME BACK FROM SERVICE AND IS COURTING MISS MARY LAWRENCE. THEY'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER EVER SINCE. THEY WERE JUST LITTLE 
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ONES. I DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE SEEING OURSELVES A BEAUTIFUL SPRING WEDDING. OH GOODNESS ME, I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS NANCY TURNER WATERS, AND I AM THE WIFE OF SEELEY WATERS. WE'VE LIVED IN THREE FORKS SINCE 1811. BUT YOU SEE, I WAS BORN IN MARYLAND AND MY FAMILY HAS LIVED THERE EVER SINCE. THERE'S BEEN IN AMERICA. BUT SHEALEY, YOU SEE, HE'S ALWAYS HAD A TASTE FOR THE WILDERNESS. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WHEN I AGREED TO MARRY HIM. 
          HE'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE PROMISED LANDS. WE'VE LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY MARYLAND, VIRGINIA, AND NOW TENNESSEE. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE SMOKY MOUNTAINS? THEY'RE ONE OF GOD'S MOST BEAUTIFUL CREATIONS. WHEN WE LEFT MARYLAND, WE BARELY HAD MORE THAN THE CLOTHES ON OUR BACKS. BUT THE LORD HAS BLESSED US SO DEEPLY. WE HAVE A HOME NOW, A HUNDRED ACRES AND 11 CHILDREN, AND LORD WILL BE 14 IN ALL IN THE SPRINGTIME. MY FATHER MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT ME RICH, BUT I HAVE ALL I NEED. THREE FORKS ISN'T A LARGE SETTLEMENT. 
          CAPTAIN THOMAS'S FAMILY WAS THE FIRST TO SETTLE HERE. HE BUILT A FORT JUST OVER THERE ON THE HILL. AND OF COURSE, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAWRENCES AND THE RATHERS AND THE KINGS. 
          THEY'RE ALSO FROM VIRGINIA AND THE MCFADDENS AND THE HARRISONS. THEY'RE FROM NORTH CAROLINA. 
          THREE FORKS DOESN'T HAVE A POST OFFICE. SO THE FAMILY MEN TAKE TURNS GOING INTO THE NEXT TOWN OVER TO DELIVER LETTERS TO THE FAMILIES IN THE EAST. MY PARENTS HAVE GONE TO BE WITH THE LORD, BUT I STILL WRITE TO MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. SHEALEY WRITES TO HIS BROTHERS TOO. THEY'RE SCATTERED LIKE THE WIND. WELL, NOW, IS THIS WHERE YOU WERE GOING? WONDERFUL. NOW JUST REMEMBER, IF YOU EVER GET LOST, JUST FOLLOW CREEKS. THAT'S HOW YOU GET AROUND. AND IT IS CERTAINLY EASIER THAN GOING TO THE WOODS. IT WAS SO NICE TO SEE A NEW FACE IN OUR DEAR THREE FORKS. WE HOPE YOU STAY A WHILE. MY FAMILY AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU TO HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK HIM SO MUCH FOR FOR SHOWING UP IN THAT LITTLE HISTORY LESSON 
          [4.2 Jennifer Cothron - National Merit Semi-finalists 26-27: Max Gregory from GHHS, Shaan Patel from MJHS, Sergio Beltran Mejia from WCHS and Taim Al-Mumayiz frpm WCHS]
AND AND PRESENTATION TO GET US STARTED. SO WE WILL KEEP THE, WE'LL KEEP THE SHOW MOVING AND WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM 4.2. DOCTOR CAWTHORN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MA'AM. IT'S EXCITING. 
          TONIGHT WE GET TO HONOR SOME VERY SPECIAL STUDENTS AND WE'RE EXCITED. THESE ARE HUGE HONORS FOR THESE STUDENTS LOOKING AT TOP OF THE NATION STUDENTS. SO WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE GET TO HONOR THEM. TONIGHT I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE DOCTOR BETHANY WILSON. SHE IS OUR HIGH SCHOOL SUPERVISOR. MANY OF YOU HAVE KNOWN HER FROM BEING THE GLENVILLE MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, BUT THIS YEAR SHE HAS TAKEN A JOB AS OUR HIGH SCHOOL SUPERVISOR, AND I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HER HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE ACCOLADES FOR THESE STUDENTS AND HOW THESE STUDENTS ACHIEVED THIS AWARD TONIGHT. SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DOCTOR BETHANY WILSON AND SHE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER AS OUR HIGH SCHOOL SUPERVISOR. SO DOCTOR WILSON THANK YOU DOCTOR CATHERINE. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO RECOGNIZE SOME VERY TALENTED YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD TO ACHIEVE THESE ACCOLADES. AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR NATIONAL MERIT SEMIFINALISTS. 
          WILSON COUNTY SCHOOLS IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS YEAR, WE HAVE FOUR STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN NAMED AS SEMIFINALISTS IN THE 2026 NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM. THIS PRESTIGIOUS HONOR PLACES THEM AMONG THE TOP HIGH SCHOOL SCHOLARS IN BOTH TENNESSEE AND THE NATION. MORE THAN 1.3 MILLION JUNIORS ENTERED THE 2026 NATIONAL MERIT PROGRAM BY TAKING THE 2025 PSAT LAST YEAR, AND ONLY THE HIGHEST SCORING STUDENTS IN EACH STATE ADVANCED TO SEMIFINALISTS STANDING, AND THIS REPRESENTS LESS THAN 1% OF U.S. SENIORS. THIS RECOGNITION IS A TESTAMENT TO EACH STUDENT'S DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND PURSUIT OF ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, AND WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT AND THE TEACHERS, FAMILIES, AND STAFF WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THEM ALONG THE WAY. AS SEMIFINALISTS, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE IN THE COMPETITION. APPROXIMATELY 7500 STUDENTS 
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WILL BE NAMED TO NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARS, WHERE THEY WILL EARN SCHOLARSHIPS WORTH NEARLY $30 MILLION. AND SO THESE STUDENTS WILL FIND OUT NEXT SPRING IF THEY HAVE MADE IT TO THAT FINAL LEVEL. WILSON COUNTY SCHOOLS CONGRATULATES EACH OF THESE STUDENTS AND CELEBRATES THE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT AS A REFLECTION OF THE DISTRICT'S COMMITMENT TO CULTIVATING ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND PREPARING EVERY STUDENT FOR POST-SECONDARY SUCCESS. OUR FIRST WINNER IS FROM GREEN HILL HIGH SCHOOL, MAX GREGORY. 
          AND MAX, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU STAY UP HERE OVER TO THE SIDE SO WE CAN GET A GROUP PICTURE AT THE END. OUR NEXT WINNER IS FROM MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL, SHAUN PATEL. 
          FROM WILSON CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. WE HAVE TWO SEMIFINALISTS. FIRST, SERGIO BELTRAN MEJIA. 
          AND ALSO FROM WILSON CENTRAL TEAM, ALMA BAEZ. 
          WHEN EVERYBODY THINK THIS IS FOUR OUT OF 1.3 MILLION JUNIORS, THAT IS AMAZING. IT IS SIMPLY AMAZING. WE'RE PROUD OF YOU GUYS. PLEASE. THE FOURTH GRADE RIGHT. WE WE WISH THEM THE WISH YOU WE WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST. WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU AND, AND PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED AS THE PROCESS GOES. AND WE, WE HOPE TO HAVE ALL FOUR OF YOU BACK UP HERE TO ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BE AWARDED THAT. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. LAST YEAR WE HAD SEVEN SEMIFINALISTS, 
          [4.3 Jennifer Cothron - Perfect score of 36 on ACT: Jackson Boswell from WCHS and Nathan Scofield from WTHS]
AND I THINK THEY ALL MADE IT TO THE FINALIST LEVEL. THE NEXT AWARD IS FOR THE ACT. AND THIS IS ALSO ONE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OUR STUDENTS TAKE THE ACT EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND OUR SENIOR ACT DATE WAS IN OCTOBER. THE SCHOOLS GOT TO CHOOSE WHICH DAY. SO SOME OF THOSE ARE ROLLING IN, AND WE ALREADY KNOW WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE OF THESE COMING UP LATER THIS YEAR. SO THIS IS ABOUT THE PERFECT ACT. 
          I'M SURE MANY OF US REMEMBER TAKING THE ACT BACK IN OUR HIGH SCHOOL DAYS, AND IT'S A HARD TEST. IT IS A RIGOROUS COLLEGE ENTRANCE EXAM REQUIRED OF ALL HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES IN TENNESSEE. IT HAS FOUR SUBPARTS ENGLISH, MATH, READING AND SCIENCE, AND EACH SUBPART IS SCORED OUT OF 36. THE TOTAL PERFORMANCE IS ALSO GIVEN A COMPOSITE SCORE OUT OF 36. THE ACT, AS YOU LIKELY REMEMBER, IS A VERY FAST PACED EXAM. 171 QUESTIONS HAVE TO BE ANSWERED IN ONLY 165 TOTAL MINUTES. STUDENTS SCORING A PERFECT 36 ARE IN THE TOP 0.2 TO 0.3% OF ALL TEST TAKERS. SO THIS IS VERY, VERY HARD TO ATTAIN. TO GET A 36, A STUDENT CAN ONLY MISS BETWEEN 0 TO 3 QUESTIONS ON THE ENTIRE EXAM OUT OF 171. AGAIN VERY FAST PACE. TONIGHT WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE TWO STUDENTS WITH A PERFECT 36, FIRST FROM WATERTOWN HIGH 
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SCHOOL 12TH GRADER NATHAN SCHOFIELD. 
          NEXT FROM WILSON CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. 10TH GRADER JACKSON BOSWELL. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. AMAZING JOB. GOOD JOB GUYS. I WOULD JUST LIKE I LIKE EVERYBODY AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT IF IF WE COULD GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THESE THESE THESE NATIONAL MERIT SEMIFINALISTS AND THESE, THESE THESE ACT SCORE TAKERS, IF WE CAN GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THE TO THE BUS DRIVERS, THE TEACHERS, THE CAFETERIA WORKERS, THE PARENTS, THE FAMILIES AND THE SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT HELPED THEM GET THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY GOT THERE, BUT THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. SO LET'S JUST GIVE A HAND TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO. WE ARE, HEY, WE'RE SO WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS. I MEAN, 
          [4.4 Kevin Mack - TXR America's Healthiest School Recognition]
THAT'S LIKE BRINGING A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY HOME. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. UP NEXT, CAN I GET THE TUCKERS CROSSROADS CREW TO COME UP TO THE TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? OKAY. GREAT, PEOPLE. PERFECT. BRING THE BANNER. WE'RE TAKING SOME PICTURES. WE LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. WE DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW. YES YES YES YES. SO WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE NOW IS THAT TUCKERS CROSSROADS SCHOOL HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS AMERICA'S HEALTHIEST SCHOOL. AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A PLAQUE TO YOU ALL TO MISS RAINES, THE PRINCIPAL, AND TO GINNY SIMMS, A NURSE. 
          AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND CONGRATULATIONS. I'LL LET YOU HOLD THAT. AND IF YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE ALL SET. SO WE APPLIED FOR RECOGNITION FROM THE ALLIANCE FOR A HEALTHIER GENERATION. THEY HAVE NINE CATEGORIES. WE APPLIED FOR THREE CATEGORIES AND WE'RE RECOGNIZED IN TWO OF THOSE CATEGORIES FOR SUPPORTING SCHOOL HEALTH SERVICES AND BOLSTERING PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND ACTIVITY. SO LAST YEAR OUR TEAM WAS REALLY SMALL. WE HAD ABOUT 16 MEMBERS, AND THIS YEAR WE ALREADY HAVE 17 STAFF MEMBERS, 16 STUDENTS, SEVEN PARENTS AND THREE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO TRY TO HELP US REACH OUR GOAL OF BEING AN ALL STAR SCHOOL. SO WE WERE ONE OF 46 IN THE WHOLE STATE OF TENNESSEE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS AMERICA'S HEALTHIEST SCHOOLS. THERE WERE ONLY 200 IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. THAT WAS AN ALL STAR SCHOOL. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REACH THAT BY BEING RECOGNIZED IN ALL NINE CATEGORIES FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING UP HERE TONIGHT. AND AS MISS SIMMS, A NURSE HERE, MISS SIMMS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. LIKE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZES HOW GREAT OUR NURSES ARE. AND OUR NURSES ARE ACROSS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY DO SO MUCH THAT NOBODY KNOWS. SO LET'S GIVE A HAND FOR MISS MISS SIMMS AND OUR NURSES, TOO. THANK YOU. SO MUCH TO CELEBRATE. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THAT'S AN AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT. AMAZING, 
          [5. Statements from Guest/Delegations/Speakers]
AMAZING, AMAZING. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE SHOW ON THE ROAD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SECTION FIVE STATEMENTS FROM GUEST DELEGATIONS AND SPEAKERS. I HAVE A MR. VANCE LACKEY, IF 
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YOU CAN. IS IT LACKEY? PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. SIR, I DO HAVE A A SHORT STATEMENT TO READ BEFORE YOU START, SIR. OKAY. SO PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF IN THE SUBJECT OF YOUR PRESENTATION. PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR REMARKS TO THE CHAIR. THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE REMARKS THAT VIOLATE BOARD POLICY. 1.404 THE BOARD HAS NO OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO YOUR REMARKS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR REMARKS, THE BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS SHALL HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RESPOND. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES WHEN IT STARTS, SIR. SO THE FLOOR IS YOURS. HELLO, I'M VANCE LACKEY, I AM THE DEPUTY SCOUT EXECUTIVE AND THE SEE, THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF THE MIDDLE TENNESSEE COUNCIL, SERVING 37 COUNTIES HERE IN TENNESSEE. I WANT TO SAY THIS IS NOT MY FIRST TIME HERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. MY SON WAS RECOGNIZED HERE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. HE IS A ESPORTS NATIONAL FINALIST, AND HE NOW IS THE GRADUATE OF CUMBERLAND UNIVERSITY AND IS THE ASSISTANT ESPORTS DIRECTOR OVER THERE. MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM GREEN HILL HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S A FOUR YEAR LETTERMAN. FIRST FOUR YEARS OF SCHOOL, PLAYED SOCCER. SHE GRADUATED HER TWO YEAR PROGRAM THERE AS WELL. WITH ME TONIGHT I HAVE JAMES HERRIN. JAMES HERRIN IS OUR SERVICES THE WILSON COUNTY AREA. HE IS PRODUCT OF. LET ME GET THIS RIGHT. HE IS A PRODUCT OF MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL. HIS DAUGHTER IS A PRODUCT OF LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL AND HIS SON'S A PRODUCT OF CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL ALSO, WHO RUNS OUR CAMP OUT IN WILSON COUNTY. HIS NAME IS JASON FLANARY. HE WENT TO CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE COVER A LOT OF COUNTY HERE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. EARLIER THIS SUMMER, I HAD AN EMERGENCY ACTION MEETING AT CAMP HELD BY OUR STAFF, AND I INVITED LAGUARDIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOCTOR BROWN. SHE GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTED AND HEARING ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING. SHE WANTED TO COME EXPERIENCE THE CAMP. SHE BROUGHT ALL OF HER TEACHERS OUT FOR ONE DAY. WE DID A SKILL. WE DID TRUST EXERCISES. WE DID A TEAM BUILDING EXERCISES. WE SHOWED THEM OUR STILL SKILLED TRADE CENTER. WE SHOWED THEM OUR STEM CENTER. WE SHOWED HER OUR DINING HALL AND JAMIE FARROW. SORRY. ALSO SORRY, JAMIE FARROW, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THAT. ALSO ATTENDED THAT DAY AS WELL. WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THEY HAD A LOT OF FUN AND THEY GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. YES, WE HAVE A DINING HALL THAT WILL HOLD 600 PEOPLE. WE HAVE AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM THAT WILL HOLD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT OUR THOUSANDS OF ACRES. WE LOVE WHAT WE DO WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND FOSTER THIS RELATIONSHIP. WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AS A GROUP TO COME OUT THERE AND DO THAT, AND WE'LL DO TRUST FALLS WITH YOU. WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY CATCH Y'ALL AND WE'LL SEE WHO TAKES THAT ADVANTAGE. WE HAD EAGLE SCOUTS LEAGUE. THEY ALL LOOK AT EACH OTHER LIKE WE HAD TWO EAGLE SCOUTS HELP US. BY THE WAY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART UNTIL YOU WORE THAT ALABAMA SHIRT. SO I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT. SORRY I COULDN'T RESIST. I HAD THAT MICROPHONE. I JUST HAD TO DO THAT. SORRY. I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS HOW WE. I LOVE WORKING WITH Y'ALL. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE IN THE SAME RELATIONSHIPS. WE TRY TO DO EXCELLENCE. WE BUILD SCOUTS FOR THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO WITH YOU HERE IN THE MIDDLE TENNESSEE COUNCIL. OUR OUTDOOR CLASSROOM IS OPEN TO ANYTIME YOU WANT TO COME OUT THERE AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS ACTIVITY. GREAT. DOCTOR MAYFIELD, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A TIME WHERE I GOT 35 SECONDS? 40S. OKAY, I, I THINK I'M DONE. BUT I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE TEACHERS TO COME OUT AND EXPERIENCE CAMP AND TEAM BUILD EXERCISE. I WANT TO THANK JAMIE FOR COMING OUT AND SEEING WITH THE OFFER. WE'RE THE BEST KEPT SECRET. WE MEET IN THE BASEMENT OF A CHURCH, AND WE ALSO MEET ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS IN THE WOODS, AND PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET TO SEE US. BUT WE'RE ALIVE AND WELL HERE IN WILSON COUNTY. I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE SURE IF YOU WE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION OR, YOU KNOW, MISTER MAYFIELD, YOU HAVE IT, WE CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE OTHER SCHOOLS. BE FINE. WE CAN DO THAT. YES, WE CAN MAKE SURE. MAYBE SOME OTHER SCHOOLS ESPECIALLY MISS YOUR EXPERIENCE. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE I'VE SEEN PICTURES. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE POSTED PICTURES OF IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE AN AMAZING EVENT. I THINK IT'S JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT THESE EVENTS AND KNOW THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO GET AWAY FROM IT ALL AND, AND TO, TO, TO BUILD THAT TRUST THAT WE JUST BUILT A NEW BRAND NEW DINING HALL THAT'LL HOLD 4 OR 500 PEOPLE AND WE CAN FEED THE SCHOOL. WE COULD FEED ALL THE PRINCIPALS AT ONE TIME IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING AT SCHOOL. WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE A DINING HALL THAT COULD FEED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT A TIME. DO YOU HAVE ANY BUS DRIVERS? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, PERIODICALLY WE DO. WE DO HIRE A COUPLE BUS DRIVERS EVERY SUMMER BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN. WE WE HAVE SEVEN MILES OF SHORELINE. I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR PARTNERSHIPS WITH ONGOING PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE EXPLORED MORE. I KNOW THAT THE TEACHERS THAT WAS THEIR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE CLASSROOMS THAT DAY, THEY ENJOYED GETTING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO BOXWELL, THEN YOU KNOW IT'S A GEM. IT IS, IT IS, IT REALLY IS. AND WE'D LOVE TO HOUSE JUST ONE DAY. INSTEAD OF MEETING HERE AT THE OFFICE, WE COULD MEET OUT THERE AT CAMP AND GIVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR THE PRINCIPALS AND THE TEACHERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT SCOUTING? I'M. EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT? I'M JUST KIDDING. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, SIR. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SECTION FIVE STATE DELEGATIONS IS CLOSED. MOVING 
          [6.1 Approve Consent Agenda]
ON TO ITEM SIX. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. 
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MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. CHAIR, YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. 
          [7.1 District Contracts]
MOTION PASS. UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 7.1. DISTRICT CONTRACTS. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND, ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DISTRICT CONTRACTS? IF NOT, MR. CHAIR, READY TO VOTE. 
          [7.2 School Contracts]
MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 7.2. SCHOOL CONTRACTS. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON SCHOOL CONTRACTS? WE KNOW THE CAPACITY OF THE EXPO CENTER LAST YEAR. WHEN? FOR GRADUATION LAST YEAR. BARRY TATUM, DO I KNOW THE CAPACITY? THE CAPACITY. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT RIGHT. DO WE KNOW THE ATTENDANCE OF THE GRADUATION LAST YEAR? I DO NOT. 
          I COULD ASK MR. CABIN. HE WOULD HAVE A BALLPARK. OKAY. I'D BE CURIOUS. NOT NECESSARILY FOR THIS YEAR, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR TO LIKE, KEEP TRACK OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING IN A SITUATION. I'VE NOTICED THAT THE POPULATION, NOT THE POPULATION, THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES, HAS DRASTICALLY INCREASED EVERY YEAR. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. 
          SO JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES TO KIND OF KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE INCREASING ATTENDANCE AND WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. GOOD CALL. I NOTICED THAT TOO. THAT'S A GOOD THING THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S YEAH, IT'S A GREAT THING. IT'S OVERFLOW. I MEAN IT'S IT'S SPILLING OUT. I NOTICED THAT. GOOD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M READY TO VOTE, MISS SHERRI. 
          [10.1 Director's Report]
MOTION WAS APPROVE UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON DOWN TO SECTION TEN TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. MR. MAYFIELD. ARE YOU READY, SIR? ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A COPY OF MY REPORT WITH YOU. ENROLLMENT AS OF OCTOBER 19TH, 20,829 20,600 IS OUR PRE-K THROUGH 13. THOSE EXTRA 200 STUDENTS COME FROM WHAT'S CALLED OUR SHELL SKYWARD STUDENT SCHOOL. BASICALLY, THAT IS PRE-K FOR TESTING PURPOSES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY ENROLLED IN OUR SCHOOLS YET, BUT WE'RE BRINGING THEM IN TO DO SOME DIAGNOSTIC TESTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT DISCREPANCY FALLS INTO PLACE. I DID EMAIL YOU A LIST. I EXCLUDED ANY IDENTIFIABLE STUDENT INFORMATION, BUT YOU WILL SEE WHAT SCHOOL GRADE LEVEL AND WHERE A STUDENT WITHDRAWN FROM THIS YEAR. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT LIST, WE HAVE EVERY SCHOOL IS AFFECTED. WE HAVE PEOPLE WITHDRAWING TO HOME SCHOOL AND PRIVATE SCHOOL FROM ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. NOW THEY DON'T GIVE US THE REASON WHY, BUT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THE ATTENDANCE PERCENTAGE, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT AS WELL, 95.25%. WE'VE BEEN DOING WELL IN THAT REGARD FOR A LONG TIME. 
          CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. I PUT A SUMMARY OUT AT YOUR WORKSTATION. SO THAT IS THE LATEST REPORT IN REGARDS TO LAKEVIEW ELEMENTARY. I ALSO PUT SOME NOTES AT THE BOTTOM. THOSE FOOTINGS FOR THE NEW KITCHEN ARE IN PROGRESS. CURRENTLY. WE SHOULD HAVE THE PORTABLES READY WHEN STUDENTS RETURN FROM THANKSGIVING BREAK, THEY WILL DEVELOP A NEW SCHEDULE. IT WILL. IT WILL BE OUR PEOPLE ALONG WITH OUR JE. ANDERSON AS WELL AS JASON MORRIS'S OFFICE, TO LOOK AT WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF WORK GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHENEVER WE HAVE ALL THE STUDENTS OUT OF THAT CURRENT PART OF THE BUILDING? ONCE WE HAVE THAT, I CAN PASS THAT ON TO YOU AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT IS THEY WILL HAVE TO DO ASBESTOS ABATEMENT ONCE THEY GET THE STUDENTS OUT PREPARING FOR THAT ROOF WORK. WATERTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY'RE STILL DOING SITE WORK AT THAT LOCATION, AND I ANTICIPATE THE SITE WORK WILL LAST ANOTHER 4 TO 6 WEEKS. ONE 
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THING I WANTED TO MENTION, I BROUGHT TO YOU THE CONTRACT FOR IS REALLY AN AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON CONTROL TO DO AN INVESTIGATIVE STUDY ON POTENTIAL WASTE AND COST SAVINGS FOR OUR DISTRICT. THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THEY THINK THEY HAVE SOME SAVINGS, BUT IN ORDER TO DIVE DOWN DEEPER, THEY'RE GOING. IT WILL REQUIRE ABOUT $100,000 COMMITMENT FROM THE DISTRICT. I HAVEN'T SHARED THAT PIECE OF PAPER WITH YOU, BUT. ALL RIGHT. SO YES, THEY THINK THEY CAN IDENTIFY SOME COST SAVINGS FOR US. ALL RIGHT. BUT THE REAL KEY IS LIGHTS IS ONE OF THE BIG FACTORS. ALL RIGHT. LED LIGHTS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER, OKAY. SO THEY CAN COME IN AND REPLACE OUR OLDER LED LIGHTS WITH THE NEWEST VERSION, WHICH WILL SAVE US IN ENERGY COSTS. 
          WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT'S KIND OF A COST SHARING SAVINGS. SO BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE LIGHTS WITH THE COST SHARING, MEANING YOU'VE GOT A YOU'RE PAYING FOR THEM IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. YOU'RE BORROWING THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE LIGHTS. MY REAL QUESTION, WHENEVER I, I BROUGHT THEM TO YOU WAS, WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH COST SAVINGS IN ORDER TO DO SOME HVAC UPGRADES? THEY DON'T KNOW. IN REGARDS TO THAT. IT DOES REQUIRE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. SO I'M JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY ACTION RIGHT NOW. I'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW UP MEETING WITH THEM AS WELL. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO UPDATES FROM DEPUTY DIRECTORS, MR. ADAMS. NO, SIR. YOU DO HAVE THE DISCIPLINE REPORT INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, THOUGH, DOCTOR COTHRAN, OUR REPORT. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. I'M SORRY IT WAS THE REPORT IN YOUR PACKET. I APOLOGIZE, DOCTOR CATHERINE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS THE STATE DID RELEASE THE GRADUATION RATE DATA LAST WEEK. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN WILSON COUNTY EXCEEDS THAT ABOVE 96% MARK. WE'RE AT 98.1%. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TONIGHT. MISS OWENS. ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF OPEN ENROLLMENT ANNUAL TRANSFER FOR BENEFITS. WE ARE ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY TO FILL OUT A NEW LIFE INSURANCE FORM SO THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE FORM. WE ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO FLEXIBLE BENEFIT FORMS, BUT IT IS A BUSY TIME AROUND THE BENEFITS OFFICE RIGHT NOW. THIS INFORMATION IS IN THE NEWSLETTER AS WELL. MR. SEBASTIAN. GOOD EVENING. I'VE PROVIDED EVERYBODY THE MONTHLY REPORT ON THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ALMOST BROKE EVEN JUST A OUR EXPENSES EXCEEDED OUR REVENUES JUST BY 110,000. SO THAT MONTH LOOKED PRETTY GOOD. OUR EXPENSES CAME IN LOWER THAN THAN EXPECTED JUST OVERALL FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. WE ARE AT A LOSS OF $3.5 MILLION. WHEN YOU COMPARE YOUR EXPENSES OVER YOUR REVENUES. BUT WE'RE NOT IN THE NEGATIVE. CORRECT. I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT IN THE NEGATIVE, THOUGH, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. THANK YOU. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE TWO, OUR CURRENT CASH AVAILABLE, OUR NET POSITION IS $7.8 MILLION. AND AT THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT EVENS OUT. HOWEVER THAT WORKED. YES. YEAH YEAH YEAH. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THE UNUSED BUDGET LINES, KIND OF LIKE WHAT I EXPLAINED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. BUT ESSENTIALLY I, I KNOW SOME OF IT THAT'S UNUSED, BUT WHERE WE DO HAVE SOME MOVEMENT WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT CAN'T REALISTICALLY SAY HOW MUCH DOLLAR AMOUNT WE'LL HAVE UNUSED AT THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT EVERYTHING BUDGETED IN OUR GENERAL PURPOSE SCHOOL FUND WILL BE EXPENSIVE 100%, WHICH WILL RESULT IN A CONTRIBUTION TO OUR SELF-INSURANCE FUND RELATED TO INSURANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IN REGARDS TO INSURANCE, I INCLUDED AT YOUR STATION A PACKET OF INFORMATION HERE. 
          THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THE STATE IN REGARDS TO A FORECAST OF WHAT OUR POTENTIAL COST WOULD BE ON THE STATE INSURANCE PLAN. YOU I TOOK ALL THE INFORMATION OUT OF EMAIL CHAIN SO YOU COULD SEE IT IN A CLEAR, LOGICAL MANNER. I'M SHARING THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE STATE PLAN COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 24 TO 27 MILLION WOULD BE THE DISTRICT COST, DEPENDING ON HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. OKAY. I ALSO 
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INCLUDED IN THERE THE PREMIUMS FROM THE STATE AND ALSO EXAMPLES OF PLANS WHICH I HAD SHARED BEFORE FROM TWO OTHER DISTRICTS. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS TO A VOTE, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO NEXT. WE HAVE GOT TO PUT OUR WE HAVE GOT TO NAIL DOWN SOME EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. I'M GOING TO BRING YOU SOME EXAMPLES NEXT MONTH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NARROW THOSE DOWN. OKAY. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL IS KNOWING WHAT WHAT THE PRICE POINT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO, MR. SEBASTIAN, WHAT DO WE SPEND ON INSURANCE? LAST YEAR, TOTAL DISTRICT. JUST DISTRICT $31 MILLION. I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M THINKING IT'S AROUND $31 MILLION WAS OUR TOTAL EXPENSES FOR LAST YEAR. 
          BUT THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S THE CLINIC. THAT'S THE MEDICAL CLAIMS. ANY ANY EXPENSES RELATED TO THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND? THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT. 33.3333 OKAY. 33 YEAH, I THINK I JUST SENT YOU THAT EMAIL. QUESTION, MISS FARRELL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHATEVER WE DO APPLES TO APPLES. SO IF WE SPENT 31, 33 MILLION, THEN I WANT TO SEE WHAT THEIR COST BREAKDOWN IS GOING TO BE IF WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING HERE, AS IF WE BUDGET THAT 33 MILLION, I WANT TO SEE AN ACTION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE WE MOVED MONEY LAST TIME OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE. SO IF THIS IS GOING TO COST 33 MILLION AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SPEND. I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THIS WELL, AM I? OKAY. WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS WE'VE SPENT 30, LET'S SAY WE SPENT 33 MILLION LAST YEAR. ALL RIGHT. OUR OUR EMPLOYEE AND DISTRICT CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDING UP TO THE 33 MILLION. ARE WE WANTING TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE? ARE WE WANTING TO GO IN WHICH WHERE'S THAT SLIDING SCALE GOING TO BE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. NOW, WHEN YOU SAY APPLES TO APPLES, WE'VE ALSO BROUGHT UP THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE VOTING FOR OR AGAINST. SO WE'LL HAVE WE NEED THE STATE PLAN. AND THEN WE ALSO NEED WHAT'S THE WILSON COUNTY PLAN LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IF THEY DON'T APPROVE THE STATE PLAN. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ADJUSTMENTS ARE WE GOING TO MAKE? ALL RIGHT. SO I'M SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU JUST FOR YOU TO TAKE LOOK AT BRING BACK, ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT. WE HAD A MEETING, MISS OWENS AND MYSELF WITH VANDERBILT. I'M SORRY. VANDERBILT HEALTH AFFILIATED NETWORK. IT IS A NETWORK IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE. ALL RIGHT. THEY HAVE THEY ARE IN SOME OTHER DISTRICTS. ALL RIGHT. 
          THEY HAVE FORECAST A POTENTIAL SAVINGS FOR OUR DISTRICT OF ABOUT 1.5 MILLION, JUST ON A CHANGE IN NETWORK. OKAY. SO THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL OPTION TO WHERE WE FORMALIZE INFORMATION ABOUT A STATE PLAN AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THEN WE ALSO FORMULATE A SELF-INSURANCE FUND THAT HAS SIMILARITIES TO A STATE PLAN, TWO DIFFERENT NETWORKS, OKAY? ONE IS MORE CONFINED THAN THE OTHER. ALL RIGHT. ONE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTIONS AS FAR AS OUT OF POCKET DEDUCTIBLES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT BASICALLY I WANT TO CREATE. WHAT OUR PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE GIVEN SOME VARIOUS OPTIONS, EXPLORING THIS TENNESSEE ALLIANCE NETWORK, WE CAN STILL KEEP OUR CURRENT NETWORK THAT WE HAVE. ALL RIGHT. BUT THEN WHAT'S THE EMPLOYEE GOING TO GOING TO BE CHARGED FOR THIS NETWORK OR THIS TIER BASED ON EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE, FAMILY, EMPLOYEE, CHILD, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE STATE DOES. OKAY, I THINK I'VE SAID THIS TWICE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I'D RATHER US HAVE A MEETING TO GO OVER ALL THIS INSURANCE AND NOT AT A BOARD MEETING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO DISCUSS. WE CAN BRING THE STATE HERE. WE CAN BRING GALLAGHER HERE. WE BROUGHT GALLAGHER HERE IN THE PAST, AND THEY PRESENTED OPTIONS THAT WE DON'T CHOOSE. YOU PLAN TO BRING US SOMETHING AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. 
          CAN'T WE DO THAT TO AT A PRIOR MEETING? BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE HANDED IS ALWAYS THE STATE PLAN? CAN I CAN WE NOT COME UP WITH SOME PLANS? THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. AND ALSO DO OUR PLAN AND NOT JUST KEEP SHOWING ME THE STATE PLAN. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE OUR PLAN, MAYBE WITH THE TIERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. YES, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE KEEP SHOWING THE STATE PLAN. I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CONCEIVED THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. AND I DON'T THINK SO. BUT BUT THAT'S ALL WE 
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KEEP SHOWING IS THE STATE PLAN. THAT'S ALL. I CAN'T FORMULATE ANYTHING UNLESS I GET SOME DIRECTION. THAT'S WHY I WOULD RATHER US HAVE A MEETING, A WORK SESSION MEETING TO GO OVER ALL THIS. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME. I KNOW I STUMBLED OVER THAT. JAMIE, PLEASE. OH, NO. NO. GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I AGREE. I'M FINE WITH THE SEPARATE MEETING, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE GOT FOR 33 MILLION. WE CAN DETAIL THAT OUT AND SHOW OUR TEACHERS THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR 33 MILLION ON OUR SELF-INSURED PLAN FOR 33 MILLION. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER HERE. IT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN ON THESE DIFFERENT TIERS THIS WAY. CAN THEY PRESENT THAT TO US? IF WE SAY IT THIS WAY, 33 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. SHOW US WHAT WE GET. I MEAN, HERE'S OUR ESTIMATED ENROLLMENT 33 MILLION OVER THE ONLY HERE'S THE PROBLEM ABOUT FIGURING OUT WHAT ESTIMATED ENROLLMENT IS. 
          WE HAVE TWO TIERS INDIVIDUAL FAMILY. THEY HAVE FOUR TIERS. INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILD EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE, EMPLOYEE PLUS. SO MAYBE WE'RE TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH THE FIRST YEAR IF WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW APPLES TO APPLES AND WHAT THE BEST CHOICE IS, MAYBE WE NEED TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR TEACHERS WANT MORE TIERS, BUT THIS IS A BIG TRANSITION. SO MAYBE THE FIRST YEAR WE NEED TO DO HERE'S WHAT THESE TWO TIERS LOOK LIKE ON THIS PLAN. HERE'S WHAT THESE TWO TIERS LOOK LIKE ON THIS PLAN. AND THEN IF WE DO GO WITH THE STATE PLAN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE BREAK OFF INTO FOUR TIERS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ALL KEEP HITTING THIS CONTENTION POINT. AND IT'S STRESSFUL. THERE'S SO MUCH UNKNOWN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE AT ONCE WITHOUT ENOUGH INFORMATION. WHENEVER YOU SAY START WITH TWO TIERS, EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW, PRICE IT ON THE STATE PLAN. AND IF THAT'S ALL WE OFFER ON THE STATE PLAN THE FIRST YEAR. BUT THAT'S WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHAT PLAN WE OFFER. WE OFFER THE STATE PLAN. THEY HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO CHOOSE ONE OF FOUR PLANS, FOUR DIFFERENT TIERS, TWO DIFFERENT NETWORKS. 
          SO I THINK THAT ANY SURVEY THAT WE GIVE OUT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT EXACT NUMBERS OF COST WE CAN ALWAYS PUT ON THERE. THIS IS THE ESTIMATED COST. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU PICK THESE TWO PLANS, IF YOU PICK OR THE MAJORITY OF OUR TEACHERS PICK ONE OF THE OTHER TWO PLANS, WE CAN'T RIGHT NOW GUARANTEE THE COST BECAUSE WE CAN'T THAT RIGHT? AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? AS AN EMPLOYEE? IF YOU ASK ME TO VOTE TODAY, THE FIRST QUESTION I ASK, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST ME? I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH IT COSTS YOU, I CARE HOW MUCH IT COSTS ME. THAT'S IT. AND IF IT'S GOING TO COST ME SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OR SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, I'LL MAKE IT. I CAN MAKE A DECISION AFTER I LOOK AT THE NETWORKS, BECAUSE MY OPINION AS AN EMPLOYEE, I SHOULD LOOK AT THE NETWORKS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE STATE PLAN. I SHOULD LOOK AT THE NETWORKS AVAILABLE ON OUR CURRENT PLAN. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, I AGREE, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO WILSON COUNTY LOSING CONTROL OF WHAT WE CAN OFFER TO TEACHERS. WE'RE GOING TO PAY OUR PART, AND IF IT OFFERS THESE FOUR PLANS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET STUCK WITH WHATEVER WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE LOSS OF ONE OF OUR RECRUITMENT TOOLS. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT OUT THERE. I MEAN, IF WE COULD AT LEAST LIMIT IT TO OKAY, FIRST YEAR, LET'S JUST APPLES TO APPLES, THESE TWO PLANS. BUT WE WHEN WE GO TO THE STATE PLAN, WE LOSE CONTROL. TRUE. BUT I THINK I CAN GET CLOSER TO APPLES TO APPLES. I THINK I CAN BECAUSE I CAN COMPARE THEIR NETWORKS AND OUR NETWORKS, JUST AS I'M NOT TRYING TO BE THE INSURANCE EXPERT, BUT I LOOK AT IT FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, AND THEN I USE THE INFORMATION I GET ABOUT HOW MANY OF OUR TEACHERS HAVE ACTUALLY DID THEY MEET THEIR $500 DEDUCTIBLE? HOW MANY OF THEM MET THEIR OUT OF POCKET MAX? THAT GIVES ME INFORMATION. 
          IT GIVES GALLAGHER THEY CAN DO. THEY CAN FORECAST ALL THAT STUFF. BUT WE KNOW WHAT THE STATE PLAN IS GOING TO COST FOR THIS YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FISCAL YEAR 28 WILL COST, BUT WE CAN WE CAN GUESS BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY YOU TAKE THIS FISCAL YEAR 27 TO THE STATE, IT MIGHT GO UP 5%. YOU COULD WE COULD COUNT ON THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE DISTRICT GOING TO PAY AND WHAT'S THE EMPLOYEE GOING TO PAY. I MEAN, THE DISTRICT COULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO PAY 100% OF EVERYTHING. WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. OR YOU SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY A FLAT AMOUNT OR WE'RE GOING TO PAY A PERCENTAGE. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. SEBASTIAN. THE TOTAL WHAT'S THE TOTAL BUDGET? SPEND THAT DISCHARGE BASED ON? IS IT 28, 29, 27 MILLION? WHAT IS IT THIS CHART WHAT DO YOU HAVE BUDGETED? TOTAL SPEND. SO 
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SELF-INSURANCE FUND IS NOT BUDGETED. BUT WE'VE GOT THE BUDGETED CONTRIBUTION AND THE OTHER FUNDS. THE TOTAL FOR OUR GENERAL PURPOSE SCHOOL FUND IS 22.8 MILLION 23 MILLION. WE HAVE THE ESTIMATED CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE EMPLOYEES AT ABOUT $2.4 MILLION. 
          SO THAT GETS US CLOSE TO 2025, $26 MILLION. THE OTHER FUNDS, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THE SCHOOL FEDERAL PROJECTS THAT I CANNOT DO. THE SAME THING THAT I DO WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE SCHOOL FUND. I'LL HAVE TO PULL THAT FIGURE OUT AND SEE WHAT IT IS. WE DO HAVE SOME CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THAT. IT'S NOT AS MUCH BECAUSE THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT FUND IS ONLY LIKE 9 MILLION, COMPARED TO THE 230 MILLION THAT WE HAVE FOR ONE. TOTALLY GET IT. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT THE NUMBER WE'VE BEEN, IT'S THE HOW MUCH WE BUDGET AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING. SO THAT'S THE BIG THAT'S THE BIG. YEAH. 
          WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN BUDGET, I'M SORRY FOR CONTINUING ON THIS, BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN BUDGET, REALISTICALLY, OUR BREAK EVEN POINT AT THAT TIME WAS AROUND PER EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION ON OUR BEHALF OF 12 TO $13,000. RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 9615. IF WE INCREASE IT TO THAT AMOUNT, WE NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL $7 MILLION IN BUDGETED IN BUDGET JUST TO COVER THAT COST, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A $2.4 MILLION FOR EVERY $1,000 THAT WE INCREASE IN CONTRIBUTIONS, WE TOTALLY GET IT. SO THAT THAT THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL SPEND OF $26 MILLION, RIGHT BUDGETED AMOUNT, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF AND THEN THERE'S A BUZZ AND I, I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU, YOUR BUZZ. YEAH, I SEE YOU. I CAN'T HEAR IT. YEAH. IS IT JUST ME? IS IT. IT'S NOT YOU SPEAKING. NO, IT'S. AM I LIKE A BUSY BEE IN MY EARS? WELL, MY MY MY POINT IS. AND THEN I LOOK AT THIS AND THAT'S THE EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE WHICH JESSICA CROSBY PUT TOGETHER HERE AND SAY THAT THE THAT THE AMOUNT BUDGETED WOULD BE $24 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE AND THE EMPLOYEE WOULD NOT PAY ANYTHING MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I READ. SO THEIR CONTRIBUTION IN THIS PLAN WOULD HIT US AT $24 MILLION. NOW THE QUESTION IS VALID. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CLINICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S SO WE NEED TO. BUT TO YOUR POINT, MISS LYNN, I THINK THE SAME THING, LIKE, WHY DON'T WE BRING THEM IN, GIVE THIS OVER TO GALLAHER AND HAVE THEM DO THEIR PROGRAM AND LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP AND LET'S BEAT IT UP A LITTLE BIT. I'M FINE WITH HANDING IT OVER LIKE YOU SAID. AND TELL THEM, SUGGEST TO US THE PRICES ON BOTH, LIKE WE'RE Y'ALL ARE THE EXPERTS SUGGEST US. THAT'S THAT'S AND WE'RE PAYING THEM. I MEAN, THEY'RE RIGHT. AND THEY CAN DO THE SAME TO JAMIE'S POINT, MAKE A FOUR TIER PROGRAM IN OURS. SO THEN MOVING INTO 28. OKAY, HERE'S OUR FOUR. THERE'S THE STATE'S FOR IT. NOW I CAN LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO GO AHEAD AND CREATE A FOUR TIER PROGRAM FOR US. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IT'S BEEN MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE RETIREE BENEFIT. IF MISS OWENS, CAN WE TAKE OUT A SEPARATE RETIREE PROGRAM? AND IF SO, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT INTO THE EXPENSE OF THIS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE YOU'VE APPROVED THAT RETIREMENT PLAN IN THE PAST THAT SAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE THEIR INSURANCE BASED ON THE EARLY RETIREMENT PLAN. SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT QUALIFY FOR THAT, YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF PROGRAM FOR. AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROGRAM SEPARATE FROM THE STATE PLAN, SINCE THEY APPARENTLY WON'T LET THEM IN OR THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. IF I RECALL, IT'S IF THEY RETIRE WHILE WE'RE UNDER THE STATE PLAN, THEY MIGHT INCLUDE THEM. BUT IT'S OURS THAT ARE HAVE RETIRED OUTSIDE OF IT. THEY WON'T. SO IT IT IT DEPENDS. I THINK, SHE SAID THEY MIGHT BE THAT THAT IS CORRECT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE PLAN IN THE PAST, AGAIN, THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT. BUT IN THE PAST, THE STATE HAS NOT ALLOWED THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO COME ON THE STATE PLAN. THEY'VE REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE AT LEAST ONE YEAR OF COVERAGE ON THE STATE PLAN. BUT AGAIN, THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHEN WE WENT TO THE WENT TO THEIR PLAN. ALSO, JUST ACCORDING TO MY CALCULATIONS AND JUST CHECKING THE NUMBERS, THE EMPLOYEES ARE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 15% TO THE FUND. 264 ABOUT 4.79 MILLION IS HOW MUCH COMES INTO THE FUND FROM EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS. NO, IT'S ABOUT 2.4 MILLION ON THE PER EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION. ARE YOU SAYING 2 OR 3.4 2.4? PERFECT. THANK YOU. I WROTE IT DOWN WRONG THE FIRST TIME. 
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LET'S FOLLOW UP ON THE MATH BECAUSE I CALCULATED WE'LL TALK AFTERWARDS. IT BECAUSE I THINK THE BEST THING IS I'M GOING TO GET WITH THE DIRECTOR. I'M GOING TO CHECK YOUR EMAIL, PLEASE. I'M GOING TO PICK A DATE. TRY TO YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND MEET IN DECEMBER. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO? AND OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON GALLAHER AND THE STATE SCHEDULE AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT AND TRY TO GET THIS. SO EVERY MEETING ISN'T OURS. TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE WITHOUT ANY MOVEMENT. WHAT WE'LL DO IS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT, PLEASE EMAIL MR. MAYFIELD SO THAT WHEN WE DO GET WITH THE STATE AND GALLAHER, WE COULD GET ONE MEETING TOGETHER WITH AND HASH THIS OUT AND GET A DIRECTION BECAUSE YES, WE NEED TO GET THIS, YOU KNOW, GET GET SOMETHING ON PAPER, GET SOMETHING DONE, HAVE A DIRECTION, WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO A STATE VOTE PLAN AND GETTING THEM EDUCATED OR, YOU KNOW, STAYING ON THIS, THIS, THE TEARS WE'VE GOT TO WE HAVE, THIS IS A, THIS IS OUR, OUR TEACHERS LIVELIHOOD, OUR EMPLOYEES LIVELIHOOD THAT IS IN THE BALANCE. SO WE OWE IT TO THEM. SO IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY THERE? WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT. SO PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAILS AND I'LL WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR TO FIND A DATE. WE CAN MEET IN DECEMBER. PLEASE BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE WE KNOW DECEMBER HAS HOLIDAYS AND WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR TWO, TWO MEETINGS ALREADY SCHEDULED. SO. ALL RIGHT. I PARDON ME. I SENT YOU ALSO INFORMATION REGARDING TRANSPORTATION AND OUR DRIVERS. I THINK WE'VE HAD. 17 I EMAILED THAT TO YOU EARLIER. I DIDN'T BRING A COPY. 17 THAT ARE NO LONGER SINCE THE START OF SCHOOL WITH THE REASONS WHY I ALSO I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS AGAIN. SO I REACHED OUT TO THE ONE REMAINING POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS OUR TEACHERS. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET YOU TO DRIVE A BUS? SO THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED. I THINK THERE'S 20 OF THEM. IT'S A IT'S A LONG QUITE A RANGE. SOME OF THEM, THERE'S NO WAY THEY WANT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO DRIVE A BUS. OTHERS POTENTIALLY WITHIN REASON, IN ORDER TO PAY MORE MONEY, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE PAY GRADE FOR DRIVERS. IF WE WANTED TO INCREASE DRIVER PAY, THAT WOULD CREATE A BUDGETARY IMPACT. I CAN EXPLORE THE DRIVERS MORE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. IT'S GOING TO. A LOT OF THEM. THEY'RE WORKING. THEY'RE 7.5 HOUR A DAY ALREADY. THEN THEY'RE WILLING TO DRIVE A BUS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, AM I AN OVERTIME? NOW, TECHNICALLY, WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT BECAUSE WE CONSIDERED IT TWO SEPARATE JOBS. IF YOU'RE A TEACHER, YOU'RE CERTIFIED, YOU GOT A YOU GOT A CONTRACT FOR THAT. IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE A BUS, YOU'LL HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THAT. BUT IT'S SEPARATE. YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE HOURLY RATE. DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU'VE ALREADY WORKED ALL DAY TEACHING. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT WILLING TO DRIVE A BUS FOR $22 AN HOUR. DO WE HAVE ANY DO WE HAVE ANY TRAINING CURRENTLY 4 OR 5, I THINK IT IS. AND IF TEACHERS SAY THEY WANT TO DRIVE A BUS, WHEN ARE WE PLANNING TO TRAIN THEM? WE'D HAVE TO TRAIN THEM ON SATURDAYS. IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON IN TERMS OF LIKE CULTURE OR. I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE ARE WE GETTING? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TURNAROUND. IS THERE ARE THEY JUST GENERALLY UNHAPPY? IS IT JUST THE ACTUAL JOB? I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING INTERNALLY WITH THE GROUP OR THE TEAM THAT WE CAN IMPROVE? I'M NOT SURE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF TURNOVER IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. BEHAVIOR PART OF IT. HOW MANY BUS AIDES DO WE HAVE? I'M PIGGYBACKING OFF ONLY FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS BUSSES. THAT'S ALL. WE HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS, ONLY BEHAVIORS. ONE OF THE FACTORS I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY FOR BUDGET THIS YEAR, I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR BUS AIDES INCREASED FOR OUR PROBLEM BUSSES. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP SEVERAL BUDGET YEARS, BUT THIS YEAR, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. MAYBE IF WE TACKLE THAT SOME OF OUR PROBLEM BUSSES, AND I KNOW SOME BUS DRIVERS DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY NEED IT, BUT MAYBE THE BUS DRIVERS THAT ARE AT THEIR WIT'S END WITH SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR, THAT'S THE BUSSES WE PUT THOSE ON. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE ON OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. OKAY. I WONDER, DID WE ASK, INSTEAD OF DRIVING A BUS IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER BEING AN AIDE ON THE BUS AND WHAT WAS ASKED IN THE PAST? I KNOW VERY LITTLE RESPONSE. SAME REASON THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR ME TO SPEND MY TIME DOING THAT. I STILL HAVE TO GRADE PAPERS I GOT AFTER SCHOOL RESPONSIBILITIES, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS BUS DRIVERS IN GENERAL, THEY WORK ABOUT 185 DAYS A YEAR UNLESS THEY PICK UP STUFF IN SUMMER SCHOOL. WELL. SO WHAT POPULATION ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT WORKS 185 DAYS A YEAR? ALL RIGHT. SOMEBODY THAT'S I'M POTENTIALLY RETIRED. WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIREES THAT DRIVE. IT'S HARD FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAS 
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A FAMILY OF FOUR, LET'S SAY, TO AFFORD. TO, YOU KNOW, LIFE FOR WORKING 185 DAYS. DO WE CONSIDER THE SATURDAY TRAININGS OVERTIME? HAVE WE CONSIDERED SATURDAY TRAINING? YEAH, IF IT'S A TEACHER, YOU MENTIONED DRIVING ALL DAY OR WORKING ALL DAY AND THEN DRIVING. THAT'S NOT OVERTIME. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO TRAIN THEM ON SATURDAYS. WOULD WE CONSIDER THAT OVERTIME OR ARE WE STILL PAYING AN HOURLY RATE? MY OPINION IS WE SHOULD CONSIDER WHATEVER WE WANTED TO. I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DESPERATE SITUATION. I MEAN, WE HAVE NUMEROUS BUSSES THAT ARE RUNNING LATE EVERY DAY. WE'RE NOW WE'VE GOT DOWNED ROUTES 4 OR 5 AT A TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO YOU. AND I GET IT. I DON'T I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE FOR BEING FRUSTRATED. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CDL WITH AN S AND A P IN ENDORSEMENT, YOU CANNOT GET BEHIND THAT WHEEL. SO COULD WE CONSIDER THE TRAINING IS GOING TO BE A A ONE TIME THING? THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REOCCURRING EXPENSE. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MOVE FROM OUR FUND BALANCE. IF WE WENT AHEAD, IF YOU CALCULATED HOW MANY HOW MUCH YOU WOULD NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU COULD OFFER THAT INCENTIVE TO MAKE IT OVER TIME FOR THOSE TEACHERS. I MEAN, I'M OKAY, HONESTLY, IF THEY WORK ALL DAY, THOSE FEW HOURS THAT THEY'RE DRIVING AFTER SCHOOL, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S OVER TIME BECAUSE THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR SALARIED POSITION. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THOSE SATURDAYS ARE OVERTIME. I JUST THINK, ONE, GOD BLESS OUR TEACHERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM TO SAVE US AGAIN AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON THEIR PLATE. THAT'S ONE, TWO. WE ALL NEED TO LOOK. AND EVEN OUR WHAT IS THE BOARD? AND THIS IS I'M NOT POINTING IT AT ANY GROUP OR ANY, ANY PERSON INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THE CULTURE THAT WE'RE CREATING TO HAVE THIS MUCH TURNOVER, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE LEADERSHIP FROM FROM OUR LEVEL. ARE WE PROVIDING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU PROVIDING EVERYTHING IS IS A TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FOURTH TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, AND WE HAVE THIS ROLLER COASTER WHERE WE GET EXCITED AND WE HAVE ALL THESE EMPLOYEES HIRED, THEN THEY ALL DISAPPEAR, THEN THEY ALL GET HIRED, THEN THEY ALL DISAPPEAR. AND TO ME, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM MARINE CORPS AS A LEADERSHIP THING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT LINE OF LEADERSHIP THAT IS. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS. IS THAT THE DIRECTOR OF OF TRANSPORTATION? IS IT SOMEBODY BELOW THE DIRECTOR? WHAT IS THE CONSTANT? AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT BLAMING THEM, BUT WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THE IF OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WE PROBABLY IF IT WAS A REGULAR BUSINESS, I'M NOT SAYING WE WE MIGHT BE FIRED FOR THE WAY THAT WE'RE MANAGING IT. AND I TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THAT. AND I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN. AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S PAY INCREASES. I'M NOT SURE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CULTURE. YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP YOU BROUGHT UP CULTURE. WHAT WHAT ARE WE MISSING HERE THAT PEOPLE ARE ARE GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING TO LEARN TO DRIVE A BUS, SPENDING ALL THAT TIME GETTING ON THE ROAD, HAVING A ROUTE, AND THEN THEY'RE JUST WALKING AWAY, YOU KNOW? AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT. I KNOW IT IS. BUT WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE MISSING? ARE THEY GOING TO GET SIGN ON BONUSES SOMEWHERE ELSE AND MAKE MORE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE? I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF. CONTRACT THERE. WELL, THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, AND YOU WILL SPEND MORE MONEY TRYING TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK THAN IT AMOUNTS TO. I THINK YOU'LL HAVE LESS PEOPLE BLATANTLY DO THAT, THOUGH. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY BLATANTLY DO IT. I MEAN, THERE MIGHT BE A FEW THAT FIGURE OUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY ME $10 AN HOUR TO TRAIN ME TO GET MY CDL, AND THEN I CAN GO MAKE MORE MONEY ELSEWHERE. NOT SAYING IT HASN'T HAPPENED. I THINK SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S NOT THAT BAD OF A JOB AND IT'S NOT A BAD JOB, BUT IT'S IT IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND THEN OTHERS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH STUDENT MANAGEMENT, WHERE IF WE HAD AN EA ON THE BUS AND ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS DRIVE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE AND STICK WITH US, BUT WE'VE HAD THEM QUIT FOR THAT VERY REASON. LIKE, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS. 
          JUST BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK I COULD DRIVE A BUS WITHOUT AN EA. IT WOULD. THE LIABILITY WOULD ABSOLUTELY TERRIFY ME. THE THOUGHT OF ALL THOSE KIDS BEHIND ME, THE BACK OF MY HEAD STARING AT THEM AND NOT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT BOTH THE ROAD AND GET ONTO THEM. WHEN I KNOW THAT I'M BEING HELD RESPONSIBLE BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS BEHIND MY HEAD, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN EA ON EVERY BUS PERIOD, WHETHER PEOPLE WANT THEM OR NOT, I GUESS. BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG REASONS I THINK BEHAVIOR IS THE DRIVING REASON. 
          AND I THINK IF WE WANT IT FIXED, WE NEED BUS AIDES. AND THAT'S WHAT. BUT BUT I WANT A CULTURE WHERE WE HIRE A BUS DRIVING AND IT BECOMES TOO MUCH FOR THESE KIDS, AND THEY GO TO SOMEONE AND SAY, IT'S TOO MUCH. THEY DON'T JUST LEAVE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE THEY'RE JUST LEAVING. SO THERE'S SOME KIND OF BREAKDOWN IN OUR LEADERSHIP SOMEWHERE TO WHERE WE'RE, LIKE 
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I SAID, WE'RE INVESTING IN THESE PEOPLE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DON'T FEEL PART. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO. I DO THINK THAT THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT ON THE BUS WITH DISCIPLINE ISSUES 100%. 
          AND I HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT IT'S ALL BUDGETARY ALL RIGHT, THAT I PLAN TO BRING. WELL, THAT'S AND IT'S SIX MONTHS. THAT'S A SEMESTER AWAY. AND I GUESS WE'RE LOOKING FOR A BAND AID ON A SUCKING CHEST WOUND RIGHT NOW, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO BE FAST ENOUGH FOR SOME OF THESE PARENTS WHO ARE, BECAUSE I JUST I LOOK AT US TRYING TO FIX CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM. I LOOK AT US TRYING TO GET THESE THESE KIDS TO SCHOOL, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT. AND I JUST THAT'S ONE THING THAT I LOSE SLEEP AT NIGHT. SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO CALL ME? YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER BUS. LIKE IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IT'S LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY FROM, FROM WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED FOR, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO. AND IT'S THE SAME FOR YOU. AND I'M NOT LIKE I SAID, IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT IS A DEDICATED POSITION. IT'S GETTING UP AT EVERY LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE DEPEND ON YOU. SO ARE WE DOING ENOUGH? ARE WE INVESTING ENOUGH? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT LEADERS? AND MAYBE IT'S NOT THE THE TRANSPORTATION, MAYBE IT'S SOMEBODY BELOW THAT. THERE'S SOMETHING THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE THAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO LOSE A LOT OF OUR, OUR PEOPLE, WE'RE INVESTING. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FIX. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU COULD THROW ON THAT TO MAKE SOMEBODY STAY FROM A JOB THAT IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING THE SUPPORT THAT THEY WANT OR NEED, COULD YOU GIVE US A SNEAK PEEK AT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF BRINGING US? I THINK I NEED SOME STAFF MEMBERS THAT KNOW HOW TO DISCIPLINE CHILDREN, TALK TO ADMINISTRATORS, TALK TO PARENTS, RIDE THE BUS IF NEEDED TO HELP THE DRIVERS UNDERSTAND HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE STUDENTS. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S ON THE BUS THAT CAN COLLABORATE WITH THE BUS DRIVER, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, THE PARENTS, SOMETIMES JUST THE STUDENT. OKAY, I MEAN, CAN WE DO THAT SOONER THAN ANOTHER SEMESTER OR POTENTIALLY? I MEAN, IT WOULD IT WOULD COST US MONEY. WELL, ANYTHING SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD DO OR IS GOING TO COST US MONEY. SO, I MEAN, WE NEED TO TRY TO GET THE PROBLEM SOLVED. AND IT'S I THINK THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING IDEA. MY WIFE PERSONALLY DROVE A BUS AND QUIT FOR THAT REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE, I DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH THIS. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I'M ALL FOR IT. OKAY. AND WE'RE JUST REAL QUICK, WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR RAINY DAY FUND WITH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THAT, BUT I MEAN, WE, IF WE WANT TO FIX CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM, LIKE I WANT TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR, AND OUR, OUR STUDENTS THAT, HEY, WE ARE COMMITTED BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE ALMOST TRIED EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CHANGED PAY SCALES. 
          WE GOT TO KEEP LOOKING. WHAT HAVEN'T WE TRIED? YOU KNOW, AND I LIKE MISS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAVING BUS AIDES. WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WOULD VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT. BUT THEN THERE'S A LIABILITY ISSUE AND THERE'S LIKE, I JUST, I DON'T AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON TO START. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MOVING MONEY TO, TO MAKE, I KNOW IT'S NOT PROBABLY OPTIMAL, BUT TO, TO, TO START A PILOT PROGRAM, TO START TO SOMETHING TO START HELPING THIS. I'M ALL FOR GIVING YOU THE AUTHORITY TO COME AT US WITH ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS NOW AND USING ANY OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO GET THESE KIDS TO SCHOOL. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST PARENTS ARE HAVING TO WORK TWO AND THREE JOBS. THEY'RE HAVING TO LEAVE EARLIER AND THEIR NOTIFICATION SYSTEM BREAKS DOWN. LIKE THERE'S JUST, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS GOING ON IN LIFE THAT I WISH THAT WE JUST HAD RELIABLE, RELIABLE BUS THAT WAS JUST THERE. AND I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT CAN. AND ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE WILL OF THE BOARD. BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT. IS THERE A HEAD BUS DRIVER? NOT LIKE THE THE PERSON THERE, BUT LIKE THE THE CHIEF OF THE BUS DRIVERS, THE SUPERVISOR. YEAH, LIKE THE MAIN GUY, LIKE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUS DRIVERS. OKAY. TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISORS. YEAH. BUT I'M JUST LIKE, I'LL USE IT IN HEALTH CARE. WE HAVE A CHARGE NURSE OH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THERE'S YOU CAN HAVE SUPERVISORS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID IF YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE GAME AND DRIVING OUT THERE AMONGST IT. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, WHAT ARE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER INSTEAD OF JUST ASSUMING A SUPERVISOR KNOWS OR A DIRECTOR KNOWS THE ACTUAL DRIVERS THEMSELVES AND WHAT THEY NEED, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAN TELL YOU YOU WANT THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS WHAT I NEED. INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THAT THAT'D BE VALUABLE. AND I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS BECAUSE WHEN DID YOU STOP DRIVING A BUS? PARDON? WHEN DID YOU STOP DRIVING A BUS STOP? HAVE YOU STOPPED? YEAH. I CAN'T DO BOTH JOBS ANYMORE. 
          YEAH, I HAVEN'T DROVE THE BUS SINCE LAST YEAR. YES. YEAH. SO HE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE WE'VE HAD. IT'S DIFFICULT GETTING UP EVERY MORNING BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WHENEVER THERE'S 40 OR 50 PEOPLE COUNTING ON YOU, YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE THE DAY OFF BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY ELSE TO DO. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE DEALING 
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WITH LAST YEAR WAS THE ACCOMMODATION OF SOME OF THE KIDS THAT REALLY ACT IT UP ON THE ON THE BUS. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THE DRIVERS WERE BEING SUPPORTED IN THE ACTUAL DISCIPLINE OF THOSE THOSE THE KIDS. AND IT'S USUALLY NOT THAT MANY THAT DISRUPT. BUT SO ARE WE ACTIVELY I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S A BALANCING ACT, RIGHT? IF WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DISCIPLINE THESE KIDS AND LET THEM KNOW. BUT WE, WE ALSO GOT TO GET THEM TO SCHOOL AT SOME POINT. AND MAYBE IN THOSE SITUATIONS, THOSE KIDS CAN'T GET TO SCHOOL ANY OTHER WAY. BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF APPARENT INTERVENTION OR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THERE TO SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE CAN'T CONTINUE THIS WAY. WE HAVE TO CORRECT THE BEHAVIOR CAN'T BE EVERY DAY. SO I MEAN, THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WELL, WE ARE. WELL, I'VE TALKED TO ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS AND PRINCIPALS ABOUT THAT VERY SAME THING ABOUT DISCIPLINE ON THE BUS HAS TO BE ENFORCED. WE CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE. 
          NOW THE BUS DRIVER'S GOT TO COMMUNICATE THAT SOMETIMES, WHETHER IT'S A BUS DRIVER OR A TEACHER DOESN'T MATTER. THEY THEY TAKE IT AND THEY TAKE IT AND THEN THEY. AND NOW I'M MAD. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK IF I HAD PEOPLE THAT COULD RIDE BUSSES AND AT LEAST SOME BUS AIDES TO ROTATE, OR EVEN SOMEBODY THAT CAN DEAL WITH ALL THOSE CONSTITUENTS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IS THERE A YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR DISCIPLINE REPORTS EVERY, YOU KNOW, MONTH OR WHATNOT. IS THERE ANY DING ON IS THERE ANYTHING THAT GOES AGAINST FROM LIKE FOR A BUS DRIVER TO NOT WANT TO REPORT UNRULY KIDS? IF YOU HAD SO MANY REPORTS SAYING, HEY, THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF NOTHING TO TRY TO HELP KEEP IT AT BAY, BECAUSE IF IT SHOWED UP LIKE, HEY, THIS BUS SYSTEM IS BAD BECAUSE, WELL, YOU KNOW. DID YOU UNDERSTAND MY. YES, YES, I'LL SAY THIS UNLESS YOU'RE JUST EXCEPTIONAL. IF THEY HAVE ZERO ISSUES OR 200 ISSUES, BOTH OF THOSE ARE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. IF, AS A BUS DRIVER, I'VE SUBMITTED 100 REFERRALS, I OBVIOUSLY AM NITPICKING AND CAN'T MANAGE MY KIDS IF I NEVER DEAL WITH A DISCIPLINE PROBLEM, THERE'S STILL DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS. MAYBE I'M JUST. I DON'T EVEN CHOOSE TO SEE THEM. SO IT'S. 
          BUT YES, WE HAVE. WE GO OVER TRAININGS IN THE SUMMER ABOUT STUDENT DISCIPLINE. THEY ALL SHOULD KNOW HOW TO SUBMIT THE DISCIPLINE REFERRALS. WE'VE TALKED TO PRINCIPALS AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS ABOUT ENFORCING THE CODE OF CONDUCT. HOW LONG IS THE WRITE UP FORM THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THE BUS DRIVERS? IT'S SHORT. I DON'T KNOW TO BE TO BE HONEST, I, I HAVEN'T DONE ONE OF THOSE. SO, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES THAT I WOULD LIKE ONE PERSON TO DO THE COMMUNICATION AND BE HERE AT CENTRAL OFFICE SO THAT THE PHONE IS CONSTANTLY GETTING ANSWERED AND CALLS ARE BEING RETURNED. MAYBE JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE. IF IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA, FINE. I'M FINE IF WE MOVE PAST IT. BUT MAYBE THAT PERSON CAN ALSO TAKE CALLS FROM THE BUS DRIVER AND FILL OUT THE WRITE UP FORMS SO THAT IT'S BEING MORE CONSISTENT BECAUSE THAT EXTRA PAPERWORK, WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY FRUSTRATED. AND I KNOW IF THAT'S THEIR JOB, FINE, BUT THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS. ALSO, HOW OFTEN DO KIDS GET SUSPENDED FROM THE BUS? I MEAN, WE GOT 20,600 OF THEM. 
          I WOULD SAY THERE'S KIDS BEING SUSPENDED OFF THE BUS ON A REGULAR BASIS NOW. IS IT EXCESSIVE? NO. WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER EXCESSIVE A WEEK OR OH, USUALLY IT'S 3 TO 5 DAYS, MAYBE A WEEK. WELL, THAT'S FIVE DAYS, SOMETIMES TWO WEEKS. IF THEY'VE BEEN IN TROUBLE BEFORE. DO WE HAVE A LOT OF BUS SUSPENSIONS? NO. DO WE HAVE BUS SUSPENSIONS? I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED MORE. 
          LIKE, I KNOW WE WANT KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL AND THAT'S THEIR PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY. THE BUS IS A PRIVILEGE AND I'LL BE BEAT UP FOR SAYING THAT. BUT IT'S WE NEED IT TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THOSE OTHER KIDS TO SCHOOL WHO AREN'T ABUSING IT. AND THE KIDS THAT ARE CAUSING THE ISSUE ARE CAUSING US TO LOSE THE DRIVERS AND LOSING THAT PRIVILEGE FOR ALL THE KIDS. SO, I MEAN, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, THAT WAS A PRETTY REGULAR THING, WAS BUS SUSPENSIONS, AND YOU LOST YOUR PRIVILEGE SO THAT OTHER KIDS COULD GET TO SCHOOL. SO MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. 
          YEAH, I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD PERSONALLY CALL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THE LIST OF PHONE NUMBERS OF DRIVERS THAT HAVE LEFT BECAUSE I'LL CALL THEM. I MEAN, WE HAVE A POOL OF DRIVERS THAT CHOSE US AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND THEN AND THEN SPURNED US. AND I DON'T KNOW IF REACHING OUT AND SHOWING, HEY, WHY DID YOU LEAVE? WELL, BECAUSE OF THIS. I MEAN, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD, IF THERE'S 17 OF THEM AND WE COULD GET FOUR OF THEM TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, IF I HAD AN AIDE WITH YOU OR, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY 
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COULD RIDE WITH YOU ON THOSE ROUTES, WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT COMING BACK? YOU KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EXPLORE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAIN DRIVERS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO I'M JUST JUST LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE ALL JUST IDEAS. IT'S ALL ON YOU. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW? AND WE DON'T JUST WANT TO SHOTGUN THINGS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'VE TRIED IN THE PAST AND WHAT HADN'T WORKED. BUT THEN TRY THINGS NEW BUT NEW. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUDGETED, YOU KNOW, BUDGET FRIENDLY, BUT THEN ALSO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL NEXT SEMESTER TO FIX SOME OF THESE THINGS. I WILL, I, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IF, IF YOU WERE TO ASK YOUR SUPERINTENDENT OF TRANSPORTATION WHAT THE ISSUE IS, WHAT WOULD HE TELL YOU? WHAT'S HIS PERSPECTIVE? WHAT DO THEY TELL HIM WHEN THEY QUIT? SOME OF THEM ARE FRUSTRATED. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY QUIT. SOME OF THEM GO TO OTHER JOBS. SOME OF THEM STOP TO SPEND TIME WITH. 
          THEY'VE GOT FAMILY NEEDS OUTSIDE. I MEAN, IT'S VARIED. A LOT OF IT'S NATURE OF HAVING A LOT OF RETIRED PEOPLE THAT CAN DO OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE RECRUITMENT POOL IS MADE UP OF RETIREES. WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE FRUSTRATED, WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE? STUDENTS, MANAGERS, JUST THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS. YEAH. I MEAN, AND THEN YOU THROW IN THE WHOLE YOU'VE GOT ROUTES THAT ARE RUN ON NARROW ROADS AND TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT. 
          IT IT ADDS UP. IT CAN BE VERY STRESSFUL. I WANT TO SAY THE POSITION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUNDS LIKE A LIAISON. I LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I HAVE A QUESTION. OUR TEACHERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS GET A LOT OF TRAINING ON BEHAVIORAL MANAGEMENT. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE BUS DRIVERS GET TRAINING ON DISCIPLINE. ARE THEY GETTING ANY SORT OF BEHAVIORAL MANAGEMENT TOOLS THAT OUR TEACHERS MAY HAVE TO SHARE? YES, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT. AND THAT'S ONE AREA WE CAN IMPROVE IN AS WELL AS FAR AS TRAINING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR BUS DRIVERS. I DO THINK IT'S WORTH ADDING FIVE MORE DAYS TO THE SALARY SCHEDULE TO GET THEM, HAVE THEM INTERMITTENT TRAINING, LIKE WHEN WE HAVE STOCKPILE DAYS, WE GOT OUR BUS DRIVERS COMING IN FOR A HALF A DAY. WE'RE PAYING THEM IN ORDER TO REFRESH ON STUDENT MANAGEMENT WE'RE INVESTING IN. THAT'S CORRECT. WHATEVER WE CAN DO. SO I'M GOING TO. MR. HOMAN TOUCHED ON IT. WHAT SOMETHING I WAS THINKING OF THE 17 PEOPLE, ARE THEY ACROSS THE COUNTY OR ARE THEY THEY'RE CROSSING. WE'RE NOT LIKE ALL OF THEM ARE FROM MUSLIM CENTRAL. NO. OR A MAJORITY OF THEM FROM MUSLIM CENTRAL. SO SO THEY'RE JUST ACROSS THE COUNTY. YEAH. I WILL BRING I'M GOING TO BRING BACK SOME IDEAS, RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I'M GOING TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. SO ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION ALSO IN THAT ORIGINAL PACKET WITH THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATES IS WE HAD TONIGHT, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION ON HERE FOR YOU TO APPROVE A POTENTIAL CONTRACT. 
          AS FAR AS THE ROOFING PLAN FOR CARROLL OAKLAND, WE DID GET A PROPOSAL BASED ON THE OMNIA CONTRACT REGARDING CARROLL OAKLAND. THAT WAS ALL SHOWED UP RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD ALL THE ISSUES WITH LAKEVIEW. SO EVERYTHING GOT TABLED. NOW. THEN WE HAD THE ISSUES WITH LAKEVIEW, AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE. 
          HAVE THE JOB BID OUT. WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT OVER THE PROJECT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU WILL HAVE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PRICES ARE, 1.4 MILLION NOW THAT'S THE ENTIRE ROOF. IT WAS 1.7 MILLION. IF YOU USE THE THE BETTER BRAND OF MATERIAL, THAT'S THE ALTERNATE THAT YOU SEE ON THERE. SINCE THAT TIME, WE DID GET WATER CONTROL ROOFING TO COME OUT, AND THEY HAVE MADE REPAIRS TO THE NEWER PART OF THE BUILDING, THE OLDER PART OF CARROLL OAKLAND. IT NEEDS A ROOF ON IT. WE DO HAVE 500,000 THAT WE WERE AWARDED IN A GRANT THAT HAS TO GO TO THAT PROJECT, BUT YOU'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION COMING UP SHORTLY, AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THAT INFORMATION. I'LL JUST SAY I'VE BEEN THERE AND I'VE SEEN THE GARBAGE CAN SHUFFLE BECAUSE THEY MOVED THE GARBAGE CANS AROUND. THEY'RE ON WHEELS TO CATCH THE DRIPS. AND IT'S A, IT'S DEFINITELY A BADLY NEEDED PROJECT. THAT'S MY REPORT. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SECOND MOTION, A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT, WE'RE READY TO VOTE, MISS SHERRY. 
          [11.1 Recommendation to Approve High School Program of Studies]
          [01:15:24]
MOTION WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS. ITEM 11.1 RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM STUDIES. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND DISCUSSION. YEAH, I HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS WE CAN MAYBE GO THROUGH. I'LL TRY AND BEAR WITH ME. I'LL TRY AND GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY. AND I COULD LEAVE THESE MR. MAYFIELD WITH WITH YOU AT THE END IF YOU WANT. 
          JUST ON IN TERMS OF HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM, PAGE 44. UNDER THE CIVICS, PUBLIC SERVICE AND SAFETY, THE JROTC, IT SAYS THE STUDENTS RECEIVED THEIR STATE REQUIRED FAMILY LIFE INSTRUCTION AS A SUBSTITUTE. SO THE QUESTION I HAD WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE PARENTS RECEIVE OR WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? DO THE KIDS, IF IT'S A SUBSTITUTE, DO THE KIDS STILL GET THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT? AND THEN DO THE PARENTS RECEIVE THEIR 30 DAY NOTICE FOR THAT? YES, I BELIEVE THEY DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR LIFETIME WELLNESS CLASS WHEN THEY HAVE AN ENTRY LEVEL JROTC AND WE BRING THAT INSTRUCTION TO THAT WELLNESS CLASS, THEY PARTICIPATE WITH THAT TEACHER, OKAY? THEY ALSO GET THE SAME NOTICES EVERY OTHER PARENT. 
          OKAY. AND THEN ON PAGE 54 AND 95 UNDER DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY, SCIENCE AND COMPUTER SCIENCE, AP COMPUTER SCIENCE PRINCIPLES, IT SAYS THE DISTRICT WORDING ENGAGE A DIVERSE STUDENT POPULATION, INCLUDING FEMALE AND UNDERREPRESENTED STUDENTS, IS NOT THE CURRENT COLLEGE BOARD'S CURRENT DESCRIPTION. AND IT APPEARS TWICE. AND SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY DELETE THAT TO MAKE IT MATCH THE COLLEGE BOARD CURRENT LANGUAGE AND JUST SAY ALL STUDENTS INSTEAD. CAN YOU SHARE THAT PAGE NUMBER, MR. HOLMAN, PLEASE? YEAH, IT'S ON PAGE 54 AND ON PAGE REPEATS ITSELF ON PAGE 95. AND THE RESEARCH I DID SHOWS THAT THE COLLEGE BOARD HAS CHANGED THAT CURRENT DESCRIPTION AND JUST LIMIT IT TO BASICALLY SAY ALL STUDENTS. I CAN LEAVE THESE WITH YOU TO. ON 88 ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS UNDER THE AP LANGUAGE AND COMPOSITION. IT'S JUST A COMMENT. IT SAYS THE CATALOG SAYS THAT MAY HAVE MATURE AND CONTROVERSIAL THEMES. 
          AND SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING MAYBE WE ADD HOW THE PARENTS CAN OBTAIN THE READING LIST AND REQUEST ANY ALTERNATIVE SELECTIONS IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE AP CLASSES ON PAGE 89. 
          SIMILAR UNDER ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS, AP LITERATURE AND COMPOSITION THE SAME. SO THAT WOULD BE G THREE SIX, H ZERO ZERO AND G THREE SIX, H ZERO ONE. SAME THING THAT DEALS WITH MATURE THEMES. SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF DISCLOSURE TO THE PARENTS TO THAT END. ON PAGE 89 UNDER ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS BIBLE SAYS THERE'S A MISSION. IT SAYS THE LANGUAGE HERE MATCHES THE CURRENT TENNESSEE 2009 TENNESSEE BIBLE STANDARDS, WORD FOR WORD. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED ON THE STATE TCA SECTION 496 TEN, 26, AND IT SAYS THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW. IT SAYS THIS IS AN ELECTIVE, NONSECTARIAN, NON-RELIGIOUS ACADEMIC STUDY OF THE BIBLE ALIGNED TO TENNESSEE BIBLE STANDARDS, AS AUTHORED BY THAT SECTION I JUST MENTIONED. AGAIN, I'LL I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU GUYS, PAGE 93. UNDER SCIENCE AND BIOLOGY. G03H03. JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT EVOLUTION IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY THEIR STATE STANDARD. AND. HOWEVER, PER TCA, SECTION 496 1030, IT PROTECTS THE OBJECTIVE REVIEW OF THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF THOSE SCIENTIFIC THEORIES. SO THERE IS AN OPTION FOR OUR STUDENTS TO HAVE A DEBATE IN THE SCHOOLS FOR THAT. AND ON THE SAME PAGE 93, SCIENCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE COMMENT ONLY. IT'S REALLY IT MATCHES THE STATE OVERVIEW OF. SIMILAR TO THE COMMENT I JUST HAD. BUT THIS ONE IS RELATING TO CLIMATE CHANGE. COMMENT OR CONTENT ON PAGE 98. UNDER SOCIAL STUDIES, WORLD HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY, THERE'S JUST A MISMATCH THERE. DISTRICT COVERS RENAISSANCE ENLIGHTENMENT. THE 2020 728 STATE COURSE IS THAT THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION TO THE CONTEMPORARY WORLD WORLD. SO REALLY, I GUESS IT'S JUST A REPLACEMENT OF THE DESCRIPTION WITH THE STATE COURSE WORDING. 
          SO AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU GUYS. PAGE 99. SOCIAL STUDIES HONORS WORLD HISTORY 
          [01:20:05]
AND GEOGRAPHY. THERE'S A CORRECTION THERE AS WELL. SAME MISMATCH STANDARD IS THE ONE I JUST MENTIONED. UNDER SOCIAL ON PAGE 100. SOCIAL STUDIES, U.S. HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY. IT MATCHES THE STATE. THE NEW STANDARD ADDS THAT TULSA MASSACRE, THEN GI BILL ACCESS IN US 93 ON 101. I GOT JUST A FEW MORE SOCIAL STUDIES. US GOVERNMENT. THERE'S AN OMISSION THERE, SAYS THE STATE DESCRIPTION REFERENCES THE CIVICS ASSESSMENT UNDER TCA 496 TEN, 28. ORIGINAL SENTENCE ALSO LACKS A FINAL PERIOD, AND WE JUST NEED TO INSERT. THIS COURSE CAN BE USED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. TCA 496 1028, WHICH REQUIRES A PROJECT BASED CIVIC CIVICS ASSESSMENT AT LEAST ONCE IN GRADES NINE THROUGH 12. PAGE ONE 101 SOCIAL STUDIES HONORS US GOVERNMENT AND CIVICS. THERE'S AN OMISSION THERE. IT'S THE SAME OMISSION AS I JUST MENTIONED, WITH THE ONE JUST ABOVE 103. PAGE 103 SOCIAL STUDIES, SOCIAL STUDIES ELECTIVE HEADING. JUST A GENERAL NOTE HERE. THE REVISED TENNESSEE SOCIAL STUDIES STANDARDS TO TAKE EFFECT IN 2728. THE YEAR. THIS. THIS CATALOG COVERS. IT'S JUST AN UPDATE ON THE DESCRIPTIONS. IT'S MARKED 103 SOCIAL STUDIES AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY. 
          THERE'S A CORRECTION THERE FOR 2728. THE STATE DESCRIPTION BEGINS FROM PRE COLONIZED AFRICA DISTRICT STILL SAYS FROM THE EARLY 1600S. SO WE JUST WANT TO UPDATE THAT LANGUAGE. 
          ON PAGE 103 SOCIAL STUDIES. THE AP AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES. THIS IS G33G36H26. THIS ONE WAS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT NO TENNESSEE STANDARD APPLIES THE COLLEGE BOARD'S FRAMEWORK. THERE IS SOME OBJECTIONS IN FLORIDA AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA ON THIS. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD REQUEST A SYLLABUS. THE SYLLABUS AND THE CONFIRMATION MATERIALS WERE REVIEWED JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH TCA 49, SIX 1019. ON 103 SOCIAL STUDIES CONTEMPORARY ISSUES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT MATCHES THE STATE CONTENT DEPENDS ON ISSUES AND MATERIALS THAT THE TEACHER SELECTS. AND SO THE QUESTION ON THIS ONE, THIS IS GEO 4H17Q. DO PARENTS GET TO REVIEW THAT PRIOR TO THE CLASS BEGINNING? AND IS THERE AN OPT OUT FOR ANY OF THE CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THERE? PAGE 104 UNDER SOCIAL STUDIES. AP PSYCHOLOGY. THIS IS A COLLEGE BOARD CLASS. THIS IS AN AP PSYCHOLOGY CLASS. I WANT TO INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND, PLEASE. YES, SIR. DOCTOR CAWTHORN, IS THIS IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE? I THINK THESE CAN BE ADDRESSED. NO, NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING THIS CAN'T BE ADDRESSED. I'M SAYING, IS THIS APPROVED? WHEN DOES THIS NEED TO BE APPROVED BY? IDEALLY, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT APPROVED THIS MONTH SO THAT STUDENTS CAN START THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT HELPS US WITH STAFFING FOR NEXT YEAR AND KNOWING THE CLASSES THAT THE STUDENTS WILL REQUEST AND HOW WE NEED TO STAFF. SO THAT DOES TAKE SOME TIME. IT ALSO TAKES SOME TIME ONCE WE GET THIS APPROVED FOR OUR STUDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, TO BE UPDATED WITH COURSE CODES AND WHAT COURSES WILL WE WE WILL BE OFFERING. BUT REALLY IT GOES TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS THEN TAKE THIS CATALOG AND PACK IT DOWN TO WHAT THEY OFFER IN THEIR BUILDINGS. AND SO THAT ACTUALLY TAKES TIME TOO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SOME COURSES THAT ALL SCHOOLS DON'T OFFER. OKAY. CAN WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR HIM TO SEND THAT LIST TO YOU? YOU CAN HAVE. AND THEN NEXT MEETING WE APPROVE THIS. IS THAT OKAY? YES. THAT WILL BE OKAY WITH THE CHANGES. I WOULD LIKE THE LIST. AND THAT WAY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE CIVIC SPACE PROJECT, WE ALSO LIST THAT IN OTHER LOCATIONS, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THAT COURSE, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY FALL WITHIN THAT CIVICS COURSE. IT MIGHT BE, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SENIORS DO A VOTING PROJECT. THEY DO THAT MAY NOT FALL WITHIN THAT GOVERNMENT AND CIVICS CLASS PER SE. IS THAT IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, MR. HOLMES? NO, I THINK THAT'S FINE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN SO WE'RE NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE SOME MIDDLE SCHOOL CHANGES TOO, MUCH LESS. BUT I DO HAVE THE SAME, SIMILAR, SIMILAR COMMENTS BECAUSE I WANT TO LET I WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH. WE CAN'T JUST CHANGE THIS TONIGHT WITHOUT YOU MAKING SURE IT'S VALIDATED. SO IF WE CAN GET THOSE. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESEARCH I DID IS ACTUALLY. ABSOLUTELY. AND IF WE CAN GET THAT, WE WILL. 
          IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES LIKE THAT, WE WILL. IF WE CANNOT FIX THEM OR IF THERE'S A REASON WHY IT WON'T BE CHANGED, WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ALL TO SAY, PERFECT. LET ME GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHY THIS IS THE DESCRIPTION IN THE CATALOG. OKAY. ALL I CAN JUST EMAIL THIS THEN TO YOU. THAT WILL BE EASIER. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I HAVE A SIMILAR 
          [01:25:01]
COMMENTS, BUT QUITE A FEW LESS ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE PRETTY QUICK. YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS TO THE OCTOBER I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER 19TH SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. SECOND. SO SHE HE'S GOING TO SEND YOU EVERYTHING AND WE GO BACK AND THEN IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT ONE. AND THEN MAYBE THEY'LL BE RED LINES OR SOMETHING. SO WE'LL MAKE THIS WORK. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT, MISS SHERRY READY TO VOTE. YOU ALREADY DID. YEAH, HE DIDN'T RESCIND IT, BUT I CAN DEFER. YEAH, WE'LL JUST WE'LL JUST DO THAT. IS IT THE NEXT ONE YOU THINK YOU WANT TO DEFER TO? MR. YEAH. AND THEN. MR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEND THAT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO WHAT YOU HAVE. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE SEND THAT. SO WE COULD. WE COULD REVIEW THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. YES, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU SIR. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.2. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM STUDIES. MOTION TO DEFER ONE MEETING. 
          OKAY, I WILL SECOND THAT. SO WE THERE'S A MOTION TO DEFER ITEM 11.2 TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. MISS SHERRY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MR. MAYFIELD? TO. I'M SORRY. YES. OKAY. 
          [11.3 Recommendation to Approve Budget Amendment]
MOTION UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO 11.3. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, DID YOU WANT TO. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, YOU WILL NOTICE A. 
          PART TIME INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES ON THERE. SO THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT IS BY NOT FILLING MY PREVIOUS POSITION FOR AT LEAST A THIRD OF THE CONTRACT, THERE'S $50,000 AVAILABLE. I WANT TO MOVE THAT $50,000 INTO THE INSTRUCTIONAL LINE ITEM. AND I WANT TO TRY TO HIRE TWO PART TIME INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES. BY PART TIME, I'M TARGETING RETIREES, BUT WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING RETIREES THAT MIGHT STILL BE CONVINCED TO WORK AND HELP OUR TEACHERS. ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE LACKING. I FEEL LIKE IT'S IT'S A NEED. I KNOW IT'S A NEED. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN EVEN GREATER. BUT I THINK THIS HELPS TREMENDOUSLY IN PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR OUR NEW TEACHERS OR POTENTIALLY STRUGGLING TEACHERS. HERE. YOU'RE HERE. IT'S NOT FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S FOR IT'S THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. ENTIRE DISTRICT. I'M GOING TO USE THEM FOR WHOEVER NEEDS IT. RIGHT? THAT'S JUST FOR RIGHT NOW. THAT'S FOR THIS. THAT'S FOR NOW, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. AND THEN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, I'M GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL IN PLACE. MR. SEBASTIAN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN REGARDS TO THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT? I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH IT FROM TOP TO THE BOTTOM, LIKE ALWAYS. JUST THE FIRST LINE ON THERE IS RECLASSIFICATION OR REALLOCATION OF BUDGET. FOR SWORD TUTORING. WE'RE JUST ADDING $3,000 TO THEIR TRAVEL LINE ITEM FROM OTHER CHARGES. THE SECOND ONE ON HERE IS TEEN TUTORING GRANT REVISION. THIS IS A GRANT FROM THE STATE. WE ARE REALLOCATING THE FUNDS OR THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY RECLASSIFYING IT FOR MAJOR CATEGORIES JUST FOR CORRECTNESS ON THE PRESENTATION $1,500. THE THIRD ITEM ON HERE IS FOR THE CARRYOVER MONEY FROM THE SUMMER LEARNING CAMPS OF 2026. THIS IS JUST GETTING US UP TO THE REVISION THAT'S APPROVED BY THE STATE AT THE MOMENT. SO SHE JUST MOVED SOME MONIES AROUND THE STATE, WANTED TO SEE SOME RECLASSIFICATION OF EXPENSES FOR CORRECTNESS ON THAT. THE NEXT ITEM ON HERE IS REALLOCATION OF FUNDS, $3,000 FOR ACADEMICS, JUST JUST FOR SOME REFRESHMENTS FOR MEETINGS. WE HAVE SOME DISTRICT WIDE MEETINGS AND THEY PROVIDE THINGS LIKE FRUIT, WATER AND COOKIES FOR THESE MEETINGS. SO IT'S NOTHING EXCESSIVE ON THAT. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ONE MR. MAYFIELD JUST TOUCHED ON, THE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES. I'LL SKIP THAT ONE. AND LASTLY, THIS IS FOR THE HEALTH SERVICES DEPARTMENT RECLASSIFYING $3,000 TO THEIR TRAVEL LINE ITEM TO HELP SUPPORT TRAVEL EXPENSES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR. YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. 
          [11.4 Recommendation to Approve Fleet Vehicles for Maintenance]
          [01:30:32]
SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.4 RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FLEET FLEET VEHICLES FOR MAINTENANCE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION. IF NOT. MR. READY TO VOTE. 
          [11.5 Recommendation to Approve Surplus Items]
MOTION ITEM IS SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.5. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE SURPLUS ITEMS. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOSE LISTS GET SENT TO OUR SCHOOLS. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO CHECK ON THE AVAILABILITY OR WHETHER IT'S WORTH HAVING, THEY DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME. SO THAT IS AVAILABLE TO OUR SCHOOLS. WE DON'T GET MONEY FROM THIS, DO WE? YES. OH, WE DO GET THE MONEY. YES. OH. BACK INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. EXCUSE ME. GOES BACK INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. OH, OKAY. BECAUSE I WIN AND IT'S ALL JUST THROWN IN THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT'S WHAT DO WE KNOW WHEN IT IS DECEMBER SOMETHING. YEAH. 
          IT'S ON THE DECEMBER 3RD DECEMBER 3RD AT THE AG CENTER. WE GET PRETTY GOOD FOR THE VEHICLES. DEPENDS. WHAT'S PRETTY GOOD IS WELL I WAS JUST HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT SELLING ON GOV DEALS. NO WE NEVER HAVE. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE THIS WAY. BUSSES DEPENDING ON THE MARKET. BUT THEY BRING ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO $8000 A CAR. DEPENDS WHAT IT'S. CONDITION FOR. I THINK IT IS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING A ZERO FOUR IMPALA. PROBABLY LUCKY TO GET 1008 WON'T BRING A THOUSAND. THE ITEMS ON THIS LIST ARE ESSENTIALLY THERE'S NO USE FOR THEM ANYMORE AT THE SCHOOL. LIKE THEY TYPICALLY KEEP THESE ITEMS AND USE THEM AS MUCH AS THEY CAN UNTIL THEY'RE NO LONGER USABLE. THAT'S USUALLY WAS IT'S UP ON THE SURPLUS LIST. 
          THE BUSSES, I MEAN, THEY'RE PRETTY OLD BUSSES. THEY GO OUT OF SERVICE STILL MIGHT RESEARCH GOV DEALS. THEY MIGHT BE SURPRISED. JUST AN OPTION FOR OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT END AND SEE WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND SEE WHAT ANY KIND OF FEES ARE ATTACHED TO THAT. 
          BECAUSE WE DO HAVE LIKE A SMALL FEE AS FAR AS THE AUCTIONEERS ON THIS, AND I CAN COMPARE THAT TO LIKE WHAT GOV DEALS WITH LOOK LIKE, AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S A BENEFIT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE VEHICLES, BUT I KNOW LIKE THEY MIGHT HAVE A TABLE FULL OF STUFF LIKE MR. MAYFIELD'S AT AND IT MIGHT SELL FOR $5. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE IN FOR A GOOD DEAL, I GUESS GO TO IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION AND WE'RE READY TO VOTE. MR. 
          [11.6 Recommendation to Approve Part-Time Instructional Coaches]
SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.6 RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE PART TIME INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED EXPLAINED HOW I'M GOING TO USE THEM. SO YEAH, SURE. READY TO VOTE. 
          [11.7 Recommendation to Approve Carroll Oakland Reroofing Contract]
MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.7. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE CAROL OAKLAND REROOFING CONTRACT. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT UPGRADE. YES. WHAT'S BY CHANGING THOSE MATERIALS. WHAT DOES DOES THAT HELP US IN LONGEVITY. IS IT BETTER. I MEAN WHAT'S THE SUPPOSEDLY IT'S THE 
          [01:35:05]
BETTER PRODUCT. YES. FIBER TIED. IT WAS A NAME BRAND PIECE. SO I THINK ANYTHING. MR. MORRIS, IF YOU WANT. I THINK ANYTIME YOU GO WITH A NAME BRAND LIKE GARLAND ROOFING, WE USE THOSE IN THE PAST. THERE ARE CHEAPER OPTIONS, MORE OF THE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY GENERIC, BUT THAT'S POTENTIAL. I BELIEVE IN THE SPECS THAT YOU PUT OUT. NO MATTER WHAT THE PRODUCT IS, IT'LL STILL BE A 20 YEAR WARRANTY. OKAY, SO IT'S THE SAME. IT'LL BE THE SAME STACK THAT IS USED AT CENTRAL PIKE ELEMENTARY AND WATERTOWN MIDDLE AND LAKEVIEW ELEMENTARY. SO IT'LL BE THE SAME SPECS, SAME PERFORMANCE. JASON, CAN YOU GO OVER THERE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR? SORRY, TURN IT ON. IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM IT. YES, MA'AM. THE SPEC THAT WE WOULD USE ON THE SCHOOL WOULD BE THE SAME SPEC THAT IS USED AT THE CURRENT WATERTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WAS USED AT CENTRAL PIKE ELEMENTARY. IT'LL BE A 20 YEAR TPO WARRANTY ROOF. 
          THE IN THE SPECIFICATIONS, WE LIST 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS THAT CAN BE SUBMITTED IN THE BIDDING PROCESS. DIFFERENT ROOFING CONTRACTORS ARE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT DIFFERENT ROOFING MATERIALS IF THEY LIKE. WE WOULD THEN REVIEW THAT AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE SPEC THAT THAT WE'VE DESIGNED FOR YOUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. IF IT DOES, THAT OPENS UP TO MORE MANUFACTURERS AND MORE COMPETITION FOR THE PRICING ON IT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL A 20 YEAR WARRANTY ROOF AND A TPO SYSTEM. JUST, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THE 1.433 NUMBER IS SEPARATE. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER ONE TO COMPARE TO. SO I THOUGHT THE ALTERNATIVE PRICE IS WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING. YEAH. 
          IN TERMS OF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN INCREASE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE THAT WAS SUBMITTED THROUGH AN OMNIA PURCHASING AGREEMENT PERIOD. THIS RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR YOU TO APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR HIM TO DESIGN AND BUILD IT AND PROJECT MANAGE THE REROOF PROJECT, THE TESTING AND ALL THAT. IT WOULD BE IN THIS. SO HOW MUCH THEN ARE WE APPROVING? WAS THAT OR IS THAT JUST HIS CONTRACT PART OF THE CONTRACT? IT'S FIVE. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S 5% CONTRACT. YES. OF THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE PRICING. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. POTENTIAL. IT'S POTENTIAL. YOU'RE GOING TO SEND IT OUT TO BID. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES SIR. YES. JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH WITH YOUR PREVIOUS NEW SCHOOL PROJECTS WITH WEST HILLS MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE'RE NOT APPROVING THIS. THIS WOULD PUT IT OUT TO BID. THAT IS, IF YOU WANTED TO AVOID BIDS AND JUST GO STRAIGHT WITH ONE COMPANY. THAT WAS WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PRIOR. MUST BE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ANYMORE. AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE HALF A MILLION AND A HALF. YES, WE HAVE HALF A MILLION. A GRANT ALREADY SENT TO THIS. SO THEN YOU'RE NOT. SO I JUST MAYBE I'M CONFUSED. WE'RE GOING TO BID. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO APPROVE ONE OF THESE TWO OPTIONS OR TAKE IT TO BID. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE HIS OPTION, TO TAKE IT, TO DESIGN IT AND TAKE IT TO BID, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND BRING YOU ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION. MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER WE HAD TALKED IS THE BOARD PREFERRED. LET'S PUT IT OUT FOR BID WITH DESIGN AND SPECS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. MOTION TO APPROVE. YEAH, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION. YEAH. I FIRMED IT TO THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. WHAT I'M EXPLAINING. I PROVIDED THAT JUST FOR PRIOR INFORMATION, THAT PIECE OF PAPER WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE. JASON GO OUT AND BID THIS THING CORRECT. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BID. IS THIS BID COMPETITIVE? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO OR SO. AND LOOKING AT LISTENING TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, IF THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING, IT'S PROBABLY A REASONABLE NUMBER. 
          THE ROOFING PART FOR WATERTOWN MIDDLE WAS ABOUT $12 A SQUARE, A SQUARE FOOT. NOW THAT'S JUST NEW. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT TEARING OFF ANYTHING THAT'S THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE USUALLY 15 TO $18 A SQUARE FOOT OR SO IS WHAT WE KIND OF BUDGET FOR A REROOF. THE REROOF PORTION OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE AROUND 51 TO 52,000FT■!S. ITS KIND OF WHERE IT IS. ONE THING THAT WE WILL LOOK AT IN THIS PROJECT IS THE THE FASCIA OF THE BUILDING, THE GUTTERS, THE DOWNSPOUTS. WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE TO SEE WHAT LIFESPAN THEY'RE AT. WE'LL ALSO DO 12 TO 16 TEST CUTS. IF WE NEED TO DO MORE TEST CUTS, WE WILL. WE'LL GO TO EACH PORTION OF THE ROOF THAT WE'RE TOUCHING. WE WILL TAKE A CORE ABOUT A FOUR INCH CORE OF THAT ROOF MATERIAL AND SEE WHAT'S THERE. WE KNOW IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING WAS THAT PART OF THE BUILDING WAS BUILT 
          [01:40:06]
IN 76. SO WE KNOW IT'S BEEN ROOFED A COUPLE OF TIMES. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE CURRENT ROOF THAT'S ON IT NOW WAS PUT OVER A PREVIOUS ROOF, OR IF IT'S JUST THE ONLY LAYER THAT'S THERE. IF IT'S THE ONLY LAYER THAT'S THERE, THEN WE CAN SAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THE TEAR OFF BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT TWO TWO ROOFS, A MAXIMUM OF TWO LAYERS OF ROOFING ON. WE'LL STILL GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE WATER CONTENT AND SEE IF THERE IS MOISTURE IN THE INSULATION. IF THERE'S NOT, THEN WE CAN JUST ROOF ON TOP OF THAT. SO WE'LL SAVE THE TEAR OFF MONEY. IF THERE IS, THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH AND WE'LL TEAR IT OFF, TAKE IT DOWN TO THE DECK. WE WILL END THE DESIGN PROCESS. WE WILL INSPECT THE DECK AND THE THE TEST CUTS THAT WE DO. BUT THEN WE'LL ALSO GO INSIDE THE SCHOOL AND LOOK UNDERNEATH, POP CEILING TILES OUT AND LOOK AT THE LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE ROOF DECK IS, HOW IT'S DOING. IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH IT, THEN WE'LL NOTE THOSE IN THE BID SPECS AS WELL. KIND OF SUMS UP THE RIVER PROJECT. YES, SIR. 
          COMING OFF THE ROOF, MAKE SURE IT'S ACTUALLY NO SEWER PROBLEMS EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND THE WATER, THE KIDS CAN GO OUT THERE AND PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUND AND WHATNOT. BUT WHEN YOUR WATER'S COMING OFF THE ROOF AND SHEDDING, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE IT'S FLOWING AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND ALL THE IF IT'S GOING INTO FRENCH DRAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S DRAINING OFF INTO. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER. IT'S A. WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE SCOPE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO LIKE US TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE JUST TO DO THE ROOF ITSELF. 
          BUT WHEN WE. THAT BUILDING WAS. WE DID AN ADDITION TO THAT IN THE 2014 2016 ERA, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. AS PART OF THAT, I THINK MOST OF THE DOWNSPOUTS WERE CONNECTED TO A STORM SYSTEM. AND LOOKING AT PICTURES TODAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY THEY STILL ARE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT AND ADD TO IT. IF THERE IS SOME SITE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO IT, WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT ADDING THAT TO THE PROJECT AS WELL, JUST TO CONTINUE TO CLEAN UP THE SITE. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE THAT SCOPE WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT WITH THE PREVIOUS QUOTE EARLIER, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD THAT INTO IT, OBVIOUSLY. WELL, THERE WAS JUST SOME MAYBE YOU SENT OUT A MESSAGE ABOUT THE DRAINAGE THAT THE KIDS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S JUST A SEWER SYSTEM OR WHAT, BUT THERE WAS SOME WATER STANDING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SPOUTS ARE GOING INTO, BUT THAT'S A PROBLEM. IF YOU CAN'T, THE WATER'S GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE. RIGHT? SO I'D HATE TO SPEND ALL THIS AND YOU'RE NOT GOT ANOTHER PROBLEM. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US, RIGHT? YEAH. BECAUSE THE WATER IS COMING OFF THE ROOF. RIGHT. AND THE DOWNSPOUTS AND IT'S GOING INTO SOMETHING. MAKE SURE IT'S DRAINING AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. 
          AND THAT IF IT'S CONNECTED TO EITHER A FRENCH DRAIN OR A SEPARATE. IS THAT PATENT, IS IT HOLDING? IS IT FLOWING APPROPRIATELY? SINCE THERE WAS SOME STANDING WATER OR WHATNOT, AND JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S. YEP. MR. MORSE, YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INSPECT SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS TOO. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. 
          MAKING SURE THAT. YEAH. SO LIKE A LAKEVIEW TYPE ISSUE WOULD BE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN IN OUR IN OUR REROOF SPEC. SO WE DID THIS ON THE THE WATERTOWN MIDDLE TUCKER'S CROSSROADS PROJECT, AND WE WRITE THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO WITH YOU. WE INCLUDE AN ALLOWANCE IN THERE FOR A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF DECK REPLACEMENT ALSO. SO IF EVEN IF THE AREAS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND CHECK, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE GET INVOLVED. BUT IF THEY DO GET INTO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SEE, THERE IS SOME MONIES INCLUDED IN THERE TO GO IN AND DO THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR A CHANGE ORDER TO, TO MESS WITH THAT, AND I WILL THAT WILL BE THE ONE TIME THAT I GET BIT BY THIS, AND IT'LL BE OVER AND ABOVE THAT, BUT I DOUBT WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT. AND WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME? I'M GETTING US ASSUMING WE GET THIS APPROVED TONIGHT, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MAKEUP OF THE ROOF UNDERNEATH IT, WE HAVE TO GET IT TESTED FOR ASBESTOS TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IF WE DO HAVE IF THERE'S MULTIPLE LAYERS THERE AND WE GOT TO TEAR THAT OFF, WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THERE. SO THAT CAN BE. SO THAT HAS TO BE DONE FIRST. AND THEN OUR DESIGN FRAME IS PROBABLY 60 DAYS ON THIS. IT'S A PRETTY QUICK, SIMPLE DESIGN TO GET IT THROUGH, TO GET THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. THE BIGGEST THING IS GETTING THAT ASBESTOS PART DONE, BUT WE WOULD DEPEND ON THAT PROBABLY FEBRUARY OR MARCH TO TO HAVE IT OUT, TO BID AND BRING NUMBERS BACK TO YOU. THE GOAL WOULD BE FOR THIS TO BE A SUMMER 2027 PROJECT. SO IT'S DONE WHEN THE STUDENTS AREN'T THERE. SO IT'S NOT DISRUPTING EDUCATION TIMES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MAYFIELD, ON THE SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE GRANT THAT WE GOT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ON THAT. I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE TO SEE IF WE FALL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHEN THE SPENDING DEADLINE WAS ON THAT. SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO AS WE WAIT ON THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS, THE GRANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON CAROL OAKLAND THIS YEAR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. WE'RE VOTING. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE LEGATO DESIGN. WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE SECRET? THE SECRET? THE SECRET. SHH. THE CONGRATULATIONS ON CENTRAL PIKE 
          [01:45:03]
AND EVERYTHING GOING SMOOTH THERE. THANK YOU. AND AND WATERTOWN AND LAKEVIEW. YES. 
          THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING WELL RIGHT NOW. IT'S EMBARGOED, EMBARGOED. THE MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.8. 
          [11.8 Recommendation to Approve Addition of May 24, 2027 to Annual Board Meeting Calendar]
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ADDITION OF MAY 24TH, 2022 ANNUAL BOARD MEETING CALENDAR. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND, MR. MAYFIELD, YOU WANT TO. SO MY RECOMMENDATION I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON THERE BECAUSE IF WE ARE TENURE, I'M MAKING THEM I'M REMOVING MY RECOMMENDATION PRIOR. IT SHOWS UP IN OLD BUSINESS. IF WE'RE GOING TO GRANT TENURE, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN MAY, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL ADDRESS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS HAVE WE DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST AND LOOK FOR TEACHERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED? THE ANSWER IS NO. MISS OWENS AND I HAVE SPOKEN SINCE. WE HAVE NEVER GRANTED TENURE TO SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN SUSPENDED PRIOR. I WILL SAY THAT, BUT I STILL BELIEVE THAT TENURE SHOULD BE APPROVED IN MAY. SO I'M WITHDRAWING MY RECOMMENDATION. I MADE PREVIOUS IN MAY 24TH. YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE LATER IN MAY TO DO THAT? YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE WE WE DO HAVE A WE'RE MEETING IN MAY AT THE BEGINNING HERE. HERE'S WHY. BECAUSE IF THE BOARD DOES NOT GRANT TENURE TO AN EMPLOYEE, THEY CAN NO LONGER WORK FOR US. SO IF YOU DO IT AT THE 1ST MAY MEETING, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE. 
          AND THAT'S MAY 3RD. AND THEN THERE'S A CHANCE THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY THEM. SO SO YEAH, MY RECOMMENDATION, WE DO IT AT THE END OF. ALL RIGHT. WE DO IT ON MAY 24TH. PERFECT. NO DISCUSSION. SHOULD BE A SHORT MEETING MAYBE. WHO KNOWS. SPEAK FOR THAT WITH THAT TEN YEAR LIST, BE THE ONE WE CURRENTLY HAVE OR THIS YEAR'S PLUS THIS YEAR'S. NO. IT'LL ONLY BE FOR IT'LL BE LAST YEAR'S C TENURE. IT'S BASED ON LAST YEAR'S PERFORMANCE. YOU DON'T GET THE RESULTS UNTIL THIS YEAR. THAT'S ONE OF THE FLAWS IN THIS WHOLE SYSTEM AT THE STATE LEVEL, RIGHT? THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE IN ORDER TO BE GRANTED TENURE, RIGHT. BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GET THAT INFORMATION UNTIL SCHOOL HAS STARTED. SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS SHOWED UP IN OCTOBER IN THE PAST, ALWAYS PREVIOUS. IT WAS DONE IN MAY. YOU END THE YEAR YOU'RE RECOMMENDED FOR REHIRE. WE APPROVE YOUR TENURE NO LONGER THE CASE WITH CHANGES IN LAW AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ALL RIGHT. NO DISCUSSION. READY TO VOTE? THE QUESTION. OH, SORRY. 
          ANYTIME THERE'S ANY ALLEGATION AGAINST ANY TEACHER AND WE DO A CPS REFERRAL PENDING INVESTIGATION, WE SUSPEND A TEACHER. SO ARE WE SAYING WE'VE NEVER GRANTED TENURE TO A TEACHER WHO'S BEEN SUSPENDED SAYING THAT WE NEVER WILL. AND ANY TEACHER THAT'S EVER BEEN INVESTIGATED BY CPS AND FOUND INNOCENT AND REINSTATED, THAT WE WILL NOT GRANT THEM TENURE. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MR. MAYFIELD? WE WE'VE NEVER GRANTED TENURE TO ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED AS PUNISHMENT FOR TWO DAYS THAT I AM AWARE OF SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2017. BUT YES, WE HAVE SUSPENDED INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED TENURE, THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE HANDLE SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN ACCUSED OF ABUSE, YES, WE DO SUSPEND THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT TAINTED BY EVERYBODY, BUT I CAN'T WE HAVE NOT EVER PUNISHED SOMEBODY AS A SUSPENSION. AND THEN GRANTED THEM TENURE THAT I AM AWARE OF SINCE 2017. OKAY. BASICALLY A SUSPENSION WITH CAUSE. THAT IS CORRECT. A SUSPENSION THAT BECAUSE IF WE GO BACK, IF WE SUSPEND SOMEBODY PENDING INVESTIGATION AND WE GO BACK AND TAKE THAT AWAY, THEN IT IT'S NOT ON THERE AS A SUSPENSION. ALL RIGHT. WE STILL HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE STATE. AND IN ACCORDANCE TO THE THE GUIDELINES THAT THE STATE HAS. 
          BUT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MR. GREEN SAID. AND THEY GET THEIR BACK PAY. THAT IS CORRECT. IF IF WE DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS NO CAUSE FOR THAT, WE DO PAY THEM BACK. PAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, WHAT ALL GOES INTO A TWO DAY SUSPENSION? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID LIKE, YOU NEVER SUSPEND, GIVE CREDIT TO SOMEBODY THAT WAS PUNISHED FOR TWO DAYS, SUSPENDED FOR TWO 
          [01:50:05]
DAYS. RIGHT. AND I'M SURE THERE'S SEVERAL CATEGORIES THAT WOULD WARRANT THAT. I JUST VARIETY. THAT'S A VARIETY. I MEAN, SAY YOU TESTED POSITIVE ON A DRUG SCREEN OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE AND YOU GOT SUSPENDED FOR DOING IT JUST HAPPENS. RIGHT. AND THEN NOW, BUT YOU'VE BEEN CLEAN SINCE YOU GOT WHATEVER. NOW YOU'RE. BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT GRANTING THEM NEVER GRANTED THEM TENURE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE, THE PARAMETERS OF THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUSPENDED REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF DAYS. IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE BROKEN A BOARD POLICY IN CONJUNCTION WITH STUDENTS IN THE BUILDING. AM I CORRECT, MR. OWENS THAT'S CORRECT. IT COULD BE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT THERE ARE STATE STATUTES THAT DEAL WITH SUSPENSIONS. WE CAN SUSPEND UP TO THREE DAYS WITHOUT IT REQUIRING A FULL BLOWN HEARING. THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS HAS THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND UP TO THREE DAYS. THEY DO HAVE THE THE RIGHT THAT THEY CAN REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS. AND THAT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT IT IS ALL SET OUT IN STATE STATUTE AND IN OUR BOARD POLICY ON HOW THAT CAN BE DONE. THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TO INVOLVING STUDENTS AT SCHOOL, NOT IT. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THEY ARE SUSPENDED, IT IS FOR SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY'VE DONE WHERE THEY'VE GRABBED A STUDENT, OR IT CAN BE OTHER THINGS. FOR INSTANCE, A DUI. WE DO NOT SUSPEND YOU IF YOU RECEIVE A DUI. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THEIR BUILDING LEVEL PRINCIPAL WHO USUALLY NOTIFIES US. BUT UNLESS THEIR JOB IS A BUS DRIVER, THEY'RE NOT SUSPENDED. NOW. BUS DRIVER, THEY'RE SUSPENDED, WELL, SUSPENDED PENDING, WHICH IS USUALLY SUSPENDED, TERMINATED. SO PERFECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS TO MOVE THE BOARD MEETING OR TO ADD A BOARD MEETING TO MAY 24TH, 2027. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. MISS. YOU'RE READY TO VOTE? YES, SIR. OH I'M SORRY, IT'S ALREADY APPROVED. I'M LOST. SORRY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.1. OH. 
          THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION MOTION WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. THE THE LEGAL DISCIPLINARY PILL WAS A MISTAKE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
          [13.1 Travis Mayfield - withdraw recommendation for tenure and will be presented at a later date]
ITEM 1313.1. OLD BUSINESS. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THE TENURE TO THIS MEETING. BUT NOW THE DIRECTOR HAS MADE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE RECOMMENDATION FOR TENURE AND TO BE PRESENTED AT A LATER DATE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THAT? I'LL SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT, MR. CHAIR, TO VOTE. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. UNANIMOUS SEVEN ZERO. I HAVE A COUPLE JUST OLD BUSINESS THINGS TO MENTION REAL QUICK. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON. ONE IS I'M MOVING ALONG ON THE PLAQUE TO NAME MISS ESTHER HOCKETT THE THE LIBRARY AFTER HER. THAT'S THAT'S COMING ALONG. SO I'LL BE GIVING A DATE. I'M WORKING WITH THE FAMILY TO HAVE A CEREMONY. MORE THAN LIKELY WE'LL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, BUT I'LL KEEP EVERYBODY UPDATED ON THAT AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. 
          THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, I WILL BE BRINGING RENDERINGS OF THE THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED. THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH DESIGNS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW. SO I'LL BE BRINGING THOSE TO YOU GUYS. SO IF SOMEBODY IS WONDERING AT THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING, I'LL BE BRINGING THOSE TO BE PRESENTED JUST FOR US TO, TO, TO PICK WHICH ONE THAT WE WANT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 14.1, NEW BUSINESS. IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS SOMEBODY YOU'D LIKE TO 
          [15.1 TSBA Leadership Conference and Annual Convention November 5-7, 2026]
BRING UP? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO COMMUNICATION FROM THE BOARD. TSB LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE ANNUAL CONVENTION THIS WEEKEND, NOVEMBER 5TH THROUGH THE SEVENTH. I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY TOMORROW IS A STOCKPILE. DAY IS ELECTION DAY. SO PLEASE IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED, GO OUT AND VOTE. ALSO, NOVEMBER 10TH IS THE MARINE CORPS 251ST BIRTHDAY. 11TH. NOVEMBER 11TH 
          [01:55:01]
IS VETERANS DAY. PLEASE LOOK AT ALL YOUR SCHOOLS. ATTEND ANY VETERANS CEREMONIES THAT YOU CAN. I LOVE ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE FOR US. AND THEN OUR. OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING IS NOVEMBER 19TH, 2026. PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAILS. I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR TO FIND OUT A DATE TO MEET IN DECEMBER TO SPEAK ABOUT INSURANCE. WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, ONE MORE MOTION. MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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