[1. Call to Order]
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TUESDAY, AUGUST 18TH. THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD REGULAR SCHEDULED SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THIS ONE HITS HOME FOR US AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE HAD ONE OF OUR BUS DRIVERS, MR. STEVEN SWANN, PASSED AWAY THIS WEEKEND.
HE WAS DEFINITELY BELOVED BY THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF THE CHILDREN, A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, LOVE INTERACTING WITH HIM THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU PRAY OR YOU, YOU, YOU FEEL VIBES OR WHATEVER, JUST PLEASE, YOU KNOW, BOW YOUR HEAD, THINK ABOUT HIM, THINK ABOUT HIS FAMILY, PRAY FOR THEIR COMFORT. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A FUNERAL. I BELIEVE ON WEDNESDAY, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE SHARE THOSE, THOSE ARRANGEMENTS. SO IF YOU CAN SUPPORT THEM. BUT YEAH, HE'S HE WAS A PRETTY HE'S A PRETTY AWESOME GENTLEMAN. SO EVERYONE TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I ASK MR. KEVIN MACK TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE STAND.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. DO
[3.1 Adopt the Agenda]
I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, MISS SHERRY READY TO VOTE?[4.1 Transportation Dept. Report - Mr. Hoover.]
MOTION WAS PASSED. UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION SUPERVISOR, MR. HOOVER. SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THE. YES, SIR. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. HELLO, EVERYONE. I DO WANT TO ECHO MR. SWAN.HE'S THE DRIVER THAT DIED OVER THE WEEKEND. HE WAS REALLY LOVED AND HE REALLY DID A LOT FOR TRANSPORTATION. AND HE'S GOING TO BE A BIG LOSS BECAUSE HE DID A LOT OF EXTRA WORK FOR US TO MAKE SURE THE KIDS GOT TO SCHOOL, EXTRA RUNS AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. AND HE ACTUALLY DID A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WITH THE SPECIAL NEEDS OPERATIONS. SO HE'S GOING TO BE GREATLY MISSED. AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING HIM. SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 12 TO 15 PEOPLE IN TRAINING. I'M HOPING BY MIDDLE SEPTEMBER, END OF SEPTEMBER WE'LL HAVE ALL THE WATERTOWN ROUTES COVERED FINALLY, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A DRIVER IN EVERY SEAT. MATTER OF FACT, WE MIGHT HAVE 1 OR 2 EXTRA TO CALL ON. WE STILL RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH DRIVERS CALLING OUT, GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF. LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE FINISHING UP THE YEAR, WE HAD AN AVERAGE OF 15 TO 20 CALL OUTS A DAY, AND ON A GOOD DAY IT WAS 30. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TRY TO COVER ROUTES. SO THIS YEAR YESTERDAY AND TODAY WE HAD A DOWN ROUTE. WE HAD A DRIVER THAT WAS OUT UNEXPECTEDLY. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO COVER IT. BUT I BELIEVE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE HAD PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF 80 ROUTES THAT WERE DOWNED. SO WE'RE DOING REAL GOOD ON THAT. WE'VE COMBINED A LOT OF ROUTES, WE'VE FILLED OUR BUSSES UP. WE HAD A LOT OF BUSSES RUNNING WITH LIGHT LOADS, 20, 25 KIDS, SO WE'VE REARRANGED A LOT OF THE ROUTES. MATTER OF FACT, WE ACTUALLY ELIMINATED FIVE ROUTES. OUR PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS WE LOADED ALL THE BUSSES BASED ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE GETTING. AND AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, EVERY DAY WE GET NEW RIDERS COMING IN WITH THE PASSES TO RIDE THE BUS. SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE ACTUALLY ADDING A FEW MORE ROUTES BACK IN TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE. WE'RE NOT OVERLOADED, WE'RE JUST OVERCROWDED A LITTLE BIT. SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT PRETTY WELL TAKEN CARE OF. I'M HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS DEPENDS ON THE FLOW OF KIDS
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COMING IN. WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING 10 TO 15 NEW KIDS A DAY, AND THAT JUST ADDS TO IT. BUT IT'S A GOOD REPORT. IT'S GOOD NEWS. BART'S GOING TO PUT OUT ANOTHER AD. SO THE JUST BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED, HE PUT OUT AN AD. WE HAD 25 PEOPLE APPLY. SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT SEVEN APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO YET. SO EVERYTHING GOING RIGHT. WE WILL HAVE ALL THOSE ROUTES COVERED. QUESTIONS FOR YOU SIR. I'VE GOT A COUPLE. ONE IS SO LAST YEAR AND I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. WE PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 80 DOWN ROUTES. I KNOW WE HAD AT LEAST 58 OR 60 LIKE LAST WEEK, LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR. HOW MANY DOWN ROUTES HAVE WE HAD UP TO THIS POINT? TWO. TWO. SO TWO DOWN ROUTES. OKAY. THAT'S REMARKABLE. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND COORDINATING THIS BECAUSE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, IT'S ALWAYS, LET'S WAIT 2 OR 3 WEEKS BEFORE TRANSPORTATION SETTLES AND WE'RE STILL SETTLING, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO SETTLE WELL, PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION AT THE SAME TIME. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PARENTS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, KNOW TO, TO, TO BE PATIENT AS WE ARE FIGURING THESE THINGS OUT AND GETTING NEW RIDERS AND THAT SOME OF THESE ROUTES MIGHT TAKE LONGER AS WE FIGURE THINGS OUT AND GET NEW DRIVERS AND TO BE PATIENT BECAUSE WE'RE LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUS. YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE DO. SO YOU MIGHT BE ON A BUS A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT LONGER. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WALK A, YOU KNOW, A FEW FEET TO GET HOME. BUT THE TRANSPORTATION IS THERE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BUILD OFF OF. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS THAT SPENCE CREEK, THAT WAS A ROUTE THAT WE LOOKED AT. WE HAD 50 STOPS FOR ONE BUS. WE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 35 BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF HOUSE STOPS, WHICH TAKES TIME. AND WE WERE GETTING TO SCHOOLS LATE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HAPPY. WE'RE ADDRESSING EVERY ISSUE. MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT WAS LAST THURSDAY, WE HAD PEOPLE, EVEN A COUPLE MECHANICS, HELPING US JUST TAKE PHONE CALLS BECAUSE WE HAD LIKE 300 THAT DAY. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO EVERYBODY AND EXPLAIN THERE ARE SITUATIONS THAT WE RUN INTO THAT. YEAH, WE WE NEED TO READJUST. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISTANCE, I THINK THE BOARD IS LIKE 0.2 MILES IS THE WALKING DISTANCE TO A BUS STOP. WHEN YOU LOOK AT RUTHERFORD COUNTY OR DAVIDSON COUNTY, IT'S LIKE A MILE AND A THIRD AND A MILE AND A HALF WALKING DISTANCE. SO WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT WHERE WE'RE AT. AND WE'RE I GET A LOT OF I CAN'T WATCH MY STUDENT FROM MY KITCHEN WINDOW WHILE I HAVE MY COFFEE, AND THERE'S NOTHING MUCH I CAN DO ABOUT THAT EXCEPT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RUN AN EFFICIENT OPERATION AND NOT WEAR OUT THE EQUIPMENT. RUNNING 1520 KIDS AND BEING LATE TO THE SCHOOL. BUT ALSO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DRIVERS AND THEREFORE THAT ROAD WOULD BE DOWN. SO WE'RE WE'RE REALLY WORKING HARD AT GETTING IT. AND EVERYBODY'S USED TO BEING PICKED UP AT THEIR HOUSE. I HAVE ONE TODAY WHERE I JUST NEED MY CHILD DROPPED OFF AT MY MAILBOX. OKAY, SO WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS GENTLE AS WE CAN. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE HAULING AND HOW WE'RE HAULING THEM AND GETTING THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND ON, ON, ON THAT NOTE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S TREMENDOUS WHERE WE ARE, AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON IT. I WOULD JUST ASK, YOU KNOW, AND THROUGH MR. MAYFIELD, OF COURSE, ONE THING I HAVE COMMUNICATED BECAUSE I HAVE SAID, HEY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK. OKAY. IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO WALK. IT'S GOOD. IT'S HEALTHY, IT'S, IT'S OKAY. BUT ONE THING THAT DOES COME UP IS, IS INCLEMENT WEATHER. YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DO HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER AND I'VE TOLD THEM, I'LL BRING IT UP AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELEMENTARY AGE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, RAINING OR IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, X, Y, Z, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO FLEX AND DROP THEM OFF CLOSER, IF NOT AT THEIR HOUSE, AT LEAST CLOSER. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN STILL BE. WELL, INSTEAD OF DROPPING OFF LIKE A CORNERS, IF WE HAVE A GROUP OF STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK IN A SUBDIVISION, AND THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO PICK THEM UP, THEN THEY JUST ALL KIND OF COORDINATE TO THAT HOUSE. SO WE'RE PRETTY MINDFUL IF WE DON'T HAVE TO GET THEM TO WALK TOO FAR, AND IF WE CAN HAVE A CENTRAL AREA TO DO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. WE'RE WE BY NO MEANS ARE IGNORING ANYBODY. OH, YEAH. AND I'VE BEEN CALLED COLDHEARTED AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND THEN JUST TO GET YOUR OPINION, WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE PAST AND THIS IS THIS IS A BUDGET ISSUE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE HEAT. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ANSWER THIS RIGHT NOW IF YOU DON'T. BUT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP[00:10:05]
A LOT OF PUTTING AIR CONDITIONERS ON THESE BUSSES. I KNOW THAT GETS THAT GETS COSTLY.AND I'M SORRY TO TO HIT THIS WITH YOU. I DIDN'T PREPARE YOU FOR THIS, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT NO, IT'S IT'S ABOUT 25, $28,000 EXTRA TO ADD AIR CONDITIONING ON A BUS. OKAY. SO OTHER THAN PROVIDING WATER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES, INSTALLING FANS OR ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE SITTING RIGHT ON TOP OF THE ENGINES.
WHAT WHAT COULD WE, IN LIEU OF PUTTING A CURSE ON THESE BUSSES LEGALLY? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD TRY TO TRY TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT WITH? THERE'S JUST THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT. YEAH, I, I'VE HEARD BECAUSE OF THE SEVERE WINTERS WE HAVE IN TENNESSEE THAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN WALKING IN THE WINTERTIME. NOW, OTHER THAN THE ICE STORM LAST YEAR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SEVERE WEATHER WE HAD UNDERSTAND STORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HEAVY RAIN STORM, A LOT OF TIMES OUR BUSSES WILL PULL OFF AND WAIT BEFORE THEY TRY TO DROP THE KIDS. AS FAR AS THE AIR CONDITIONING, THE WINDOWS ARE OPEN. THEY OPEN UP THE HATCHES. I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I GOT A CALL ON THE RADIO, SAID THAT I WAS NOT PUTTING THE WINDOWS DOWN. WELL, I HAD EVERY WINDOW DOWN, BUT THE KIDS WOULD GET ON THE BUS AND PUT THE WINDOWS UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHY? I SAID, DON'T KNOW. DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH. AND, AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE DOING THINGS. THE KIDS ARE NOT ON THE BUS AS LONG AS THEY HAVE BEEN BEFORE. SO THAT'S PART OF IT WHERE WE CAN GET THEM THERE. IT'S SUMMER IN THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S HOT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I SWEAT EVERY DAY. AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO TWO WINDOW DOWN RULE OR ANYTHING. THEY COULD PUT THE WINDOWS DOWN. IS THAT SO? OKAY. AND THIS SOCIAL MEDIA AGE I HEAR A LOT AND I, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, SO, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RULES AGAINST NOT PUTTING THE WINDOWS DOWN, OKAY? WE DON'T LIKE PUTTING THEM UP AFTER WE'RE DONE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY ALL DOWN BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE OUT. BUT PLEASE, THANK, THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
THIS HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS MOVEMENT MADE ON THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO SPENCE CRAIG IS MY ZONE AND I'M COMPLETELY IN AGREEMENT WITH BUS STOPS THERE.
IT MAKES SENSE. IT ALLOWS TRANSPORTATION TO HAPPEN. THE ONE CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD, I HAVE HEARD THE WEATHER, BUT THE BIGGER CONCERN, I GUESS I'VE HEARD IS THERE'S SO MANY ONE LANE ROADS. IN MY AREA OUT IN ZONE SEVEN. IS THERE A WAY IF A BUS DRIVER SEES A KIDDO, ESPECIALLY A LITTLE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID THAT'S WALKING A LONG DISTANCE, THAT MAYBE THEY CAN GIVE THAT FEEDBACK ON THEIR ROUTE. BECAUSE IF PARENTS GO TO WORK, IT'S NOT SO MUCH WATCHING THEM FROM THE WINDOW. IT'S THEY'VE GONE TO WORK AND THEIR KIDS HAVING TO WALK DOWN THIS ONE LANE ROAD AFTER THEY'VE GONE TO WORK. AND THAT THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN TO ME TOO. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE ON A ONE LANE ROAD WOULD HAVE THE KIDS WALKING AT TWO. WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE BECAUSE WE MY DAUGHTER WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WAS HAD TO WALK TO THE END OF THE ROAD. AND THIS HAS BEEN YEARS, YEARS AGO, AND I GAVE THAT FEEDBACK. AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD AT CONSIDERING THE FEEDBACK. AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE NOW. SO I WAS JUST MY MAIN QUESTION WAS, IF A DRIVER NOTICES THAT, IS THERE A WAY FOR THEM TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE ROUTES? YEAH, I MEAN, WE WILL. I, FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN I GET A COMPLAINT OR A CONCERN, I GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT. NOT THAT I DON'T TAKE THE PARENTS WORD FOR IT OR THE STUDENT'S WORD FOR IT, BUT I GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE SITUATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT WAS CONVEYED IN A LETTER OR AN EMAIL. THAT'S THE SITUATION. SO WE GO OUT, WE LOOK AT IT IF IT MAKES SENSE, AND IT'S THE SAFETY OF THE CHILD, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO ON THAT SIDE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT
[5. Statements from Guest/Delegations/Speakers]
WE HAVE SECTION FIVE STATEMENTS FROM GUEST DELEGATIONS AND SPEAKERS. IF I CAN HAVE MR. JONES AND MR. JOE NELMS, PLEASE APPROACH. MR. JOE. SIR, I'M GOING TO READ A SHORT STATEMENT BEFORE YOU START, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. OKAY. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF IN THE SUBJECT OF YOUR PRESENTATION. PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR REMARKS TO THE CHAIR. THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE REMARKS THAT VIOLATE BOARD POLICY. 1.44 THE BOARD HAS NO OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO YOUR REMARKS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR REMARKS, THE BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS SHALL HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RESPOND. YOUR REMARKS WILL BE LIMITED. WE GIVE THREE MINUTES WITH THE SECRETARY HAVING TIME. SHE'LL PUT THREE MINUTES ON THE CLOCK AND AND WE WILL START. SIR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. JOE. SO MY NAME IS MR. JOE[00:15:07]
NELMS, MY WIFE LISA, AND OUR SON KEENAN. I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE, IF NOT ALL OF YOU, HAVE EITHER TALKED TO ME OR RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM US. WE'RE HERE ADVOCATING FOR OUR SON, KEENAN, WHO WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL AT LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL. HE'S A HOME SCHOOL STUDENT. THE CURRENT POLICY IN WILSON COUNTY IS THAT ANY STUDENT INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE, IN OR OUT ONE TIME TRANSFER RULE ACROSS THE BOARD. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WANT TO GO PLAY IN NASHVILLE, YOU CAN DO IT ONE TIME, AS LONG AS YOU DO IT IN THE SUMMER WITHOUT EVEN A CHANGE OF ADDRESS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WE'VE LIVED AT THE SAME PLACE FOR 18 YEARS. HIS BROTHER PLAYED FOUR YEARS AT LEBANON HIGH AND WRESTLED AT LEBANON HIGH. KEENAN HAS BEEN IN THE SYSTEM WITH LEBANON AND GOT TO KNOW ALL THE COACHES THROUGH THE YEARS, BEEN TO CAMPS, AND WE HAD RECLASS THIS YEAR. HE MISSED HIS EIGHTH GRADE YEAR BECAUSE OF AGE. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MATTER. AND NOT ON Y'ALL. AND SO WE BEGAN THE PROCESS AND WE WERE TOLD, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD RULE. YOU HAVE TO TALK TO TSSAA. SO I WENT TO THE HEADQUARTERS, SAT DOWN WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REEVES AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION. HE SAID IT IS NOT A PROBLEM. WE JUST HAVE TO HEAR IT FROM THE SCHOOL THAT THEY WANT KEENAN TO COME PLAY FOOTBALL. SO THEN I WENT BACK TO SCHOOL, WHICH I KNEW DID. THEY SAID, WE'VE GOT TO RUN IT UP THE CHAIN. I GET IT TO THE AIDE, THEN TO CHUCK WHITLOCK, A D OF ALL WILSON COUNTY. THEN OF COURSE CHUCK SAYS MR. MAYFIELD MAKES THAT CALL. MR. MAYFIELD SAYS, YOU KNOW, I GET IT. HE DON'T AGREE. WE'RE THE LAST HOUSE IN THE ZONE. IT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE. WE'RE RIGHT DOWN FRANKLIN ROAD DOWN FROM THE AIRPORT AT THE FOUR WAY STOP, HE SAID. I DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN IT WAS DONE. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, HE SAID.BUT IT'S BOARD POLICY. AND SO THEN THE ONLY NEXT STEP WE HAD WAS THIS. MR. MAC BEGAN IMMEDIATELY LOOKING AT IT, SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS LANGUAGE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO ALLOW HOME SCHOOL TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHT AS PUBLIC SCHOOL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISCRIMINATION. I MEAN, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY. I, I UNDERSTAND MAYBE WE GOT OUR LANGUAGE FROM TOSSAA, BUT IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO DISCRIMINATE, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WILSON COUNTY WHERE I LIVE. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LEBANON. I WANT IT TO BE TSSAA AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THEM. BUT TSSAA HAS SAID IT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. BUT THERE IS NO WIGGLE ROOM IN THE CURRENT POLICY FOR HIM TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE STATE, ENROLLED IN ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL. AND SO I JUST I THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR, VERY DISCRIMINATORY. AND I THINK WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS. WE'VE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. WE DON'T HAVE SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION. LET'S GET RID OF THIS HOME SCHOOL, RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. TOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. IS MISS LISA NELMS. I'M GOING TO READ THE SAME STATEMENT. OKAY. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FROM THE SUBJECT OF YOUR PRESENTATION. PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR REMARKS TO THE CHAIR. THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE REMARKS THAT VIOLATE BOARD POLICY. 1.44 THE BOARD HAS NO OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO YOUR REMARKS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR REMARKS, THE BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS SHALL HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RESPOND. ONCE AGAIN. YOUR REMARKS WILL BE AT THREE MINUTES WHENEVER IT STARTS. MA'AM, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE KIND OF WHERE HE LEFT OFF. AND HE WAS REGISTERED AS AN EIGHTH GRADER. AND SO HE PARTICIPATED IN ALL THE SPRING AND SUMMER THINGS. WE'VE ALWAYS GONE THROUGH LSD OR WILSON COUNTY FOR OUR HOMESCHOOLERS. MY OLDEST IS 23. WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING. WE ALWAYS GO THROUGH THE LOCAL BOARD. A LOT OF HOMESCHOOLERS TEND TO GO THROUGH AN UMBRELLA BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH STATE TESTING. WE DON'T MIND THAT, BUT WE DO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS LOCALLY.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU PARTICIPATE IN TRAVEL, SPORTS OR WHATEVER, IT'S JUST A LOT OF TRAVEL AND A LOT OF EXPENSE. AND WE LIKE PARTICIPATING IN OUR LOCAL COUNTY SPORTS. BUT WE DID FIND OUT HIS BIRTHDAY IS JULY 12TH, THAT HE WAS TWO WEEKS TOO OLD TO PLAY EIGHTH GRADE, SO WE HAD TO RECLASSIFY HIM AS A NINTH GRADER, WHICH WE CAN DO. WE CAN GET ALL THE WORK DONE THAT WE NEED TO DO IS BE IN A HOMESCHOOLER AND CATCH HIM UP. HE'S ALREADY DOING SOME THINGS ON AN EIGHTH GRADE LEVEL ANYWAY, SO IT WAS OKAY THE FIRST WEEK THAT I EMAILED THAT CHANGE OF PAPERWORK TO RECLASSIFY HIM. THE LADY WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE, SO IT WAS IGNORED FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK. SHE WAS IN A LOCAL SCHOOL DOING OTHER THINGS. AND THEN WHEN I FINALLY GOT AHOLD OF HER AT THE END OF ANOTHER WEEK, THEY SAID THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE FINE, YOU'RE SET UP, BUT YOU'RE NOT ZONED FOR LHS. YOU'RE ZONED FOR WILSON COUNTY AND FOR WILSON CENTRAL. SORRY. LIKE HE
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SAID, OUR OLDEST THAT'S 23 DID FOOTBALL AND WRESTLING WITH LHS THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. MY STADIUM SEAT IS ELITIST. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN. AND IT'S ALSO 2.3 MILES FROM OUR HOUSE, WHERE WILSON CENTRAL IS 8.4, 8.4 MILES FROM OUR HOUSE. SO EVEN THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE HARDSHIP OF GETTING HIM BACK AND FORTH. I WORK IN GORDONSVILLE. MY HUSBAND'S A PASTOR, BUT HE ALSO DOES BUSHWALKING AND THINGS WITH A TRACTOR WORK, SO HIS SCHEDULE IS CRAZY. MINE'S IN GORDONSVILLE AND SOMETIMES HE'S BEEN. MY SON'S BEEN KNOWN TO RIDE HIS BICYCLE TO WINFREE JUST TO GO TO PRACTICE SO HE CAN PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS. SO GETTING HIM THERE IS A CONCERN ALSO JUST THE SAFETY OF HIM HAVING TO NEXT YEAR WHEN HE DRIVES TO GO ALL THE WAY TO WILSON CENTRAL, WHEN WE HAVE A SCHOOL 2.3 MILES FROM OUR HOUSE IS A CONCERN. ALSO, HE'D HAVE TO GET ON INTERSTATE 40 AND 840 FOR NO REASON WHEN HE CAN JUST DRIVE, YOU KNOW, LEESVILLE PIKE AND GET STRAIGHT TO LHS. NO WORRIES. EVEN ON THE BICYCLE, THERE'S A WIDE SHOULDER ON CASTLE HEIGHTS, AND THERE'S A WIDE SHOULDER ON PIKE, AND THERE'S A WIDE SHOULDER ON SOUTH HARTMAN. SO IF WE CAN'T GET HIM TO PRACTICE, HE'S GOING TO GET HIS BUTT TO PRACTICE, EVEN IF IT'S ON HIS BICYCLE. AGAIN, POLICY ALLOWS TRANSFER BUT EXCLUDES HOMESCHOOLERS, AND THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR. HONESTLY. WE APPRECIATE TEAM SPORTS AND WHAT THEY DO FOR A YOUNG PERSON, AND WE JUST WANT EVERYTHING TO BE FAIR. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE OLDER BROTHER, WAS HE HOMESCHOOLED OR DID HE ATTEND LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL? HOMESCHOOLED. AND WE DID THE SAME THING THAT WE DID WITH HIM HOMESCHOOLED. AND WE JUST REGISTERED THROUGH THE COUNTY SO THAT THEY COULD PLAY TEAM SPORTS. SO THE ZONE CHANGED. THE ZONE CHANGED FROM HIM TO US, AND WE'RE LITERALLY ON THE LINE.OKAY. YES. OTHER, OTHER OTHER THAN THE DISTANCE HARDSHIP, WHAT OTHER I MEAN, BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS FOR GOING OUT OF ZONE. SO IF THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT OTHER HARDSHIP? I MEAN, WHAT HIM BEING ABLE TO GO TO WILSON CENTRAL. SO A HOMESCHOOLER IS ABLE TO GO TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL. THEY'RE ABLE TO PLAY SPORTS AT WILSON CENTRAL WHERE THEY'RE ZONED FOR WHAT OTHER HARDSHIPS? I MEAN, OTHER THAN THE DISTANCE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP, THE DISTANCE IS THE SAFETY ISSUE FOR US. SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY HARDSHIP IS THE DISTANCE. YES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THERE IS FAMILIARITY. OF COURSE. I'M SORRY. JUST PROCEDURES. SHE'S. YEAH. SHE'S SHE. YEAH. SHE SHE HAS A SPEECH. YEAH. I'M SORRY. YES. FAMILIARITY OF COURSE THAT HE MENTIONED. HE WAS HE WAS A YOUNG BOY TOSSING AROUND THE MATS WITH ALL OF HIS, YOU KNOW, HIS OTHER BROTHERS WHERE HIS BROTHER AND ALL THE COACHES AND STUFF. AND I KNOW STAFF CHANGES, BUT SOME THINGS ARE THE SAME. AND ONE OF THE COACHES NOW WAS ONE OF HIS WRESTLING COACHES WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG TODDLER. SO THERE'S JUST THAT FAMILIARITY. SO OKAY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL CLOSE THE STATEMENTS
[6.1 Approve Consent Agenda]
FROM GUEST DELEGATION SPEAKERS. MY MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION SECOND, MOTION A SECOND. WE'RE READY TO VOTE. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ON THE DONATION SIDE, JUST WANT TO, AS WE GET READY TO VOTE, JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE SHOUT OUT. WE GOT SOME GENEROUS DONATIONS THIS YEAR. THIS THIS MEETING JUST FROM A SAMMY AND NANCY EDWARDS, $5,600 TO LAGUARDIA. THAT'S NICE. DEREK AND AMANDA EDWARDS DONATION FOR ROCKET MATH $500. WE HAD TO FILL THE BUS GAVE US NEARLY $4,000. LOOKS LIKE NICOLE TEAGUE HAS SOME SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR A THOUSAND. I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AND IT'S JUST AMAZING THE GENEROSITY OF THIS THIS THIS DISTRICT, WE HAD A CRC AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT DONOR IS, BUT THEY GAVE $8,600 IN HYGIENE FOR MISS ANNIE BARGER AND THEN MT. WILSON BANK AND TRUST IN UNITED WAY PONIED UP FOR $3,000 SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND FOOD. SO JUST AN AMAZING. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE. THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S THOSE FOLKS THAT THAT REACH IN THEIR POCKETS AND GIVE THOSE DONATIONS. AMAZING. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY WATCHING, IF YOU OPEN UP THE IF YOU OPEN UP THE AGENDA, THERE'S A BOX NEXT TO THE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON. AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A THING THAT SAYS DONATIONS. YOU CAN LOOK AT EVERYONE WHO'S DONATED TO US, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OTHER REPORTS IN THERE. MOTION TO[7.1 District Contracts]
APPROVE UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO CONTRACTS, DISTRICT CONTRACTS, ITEM 7.1.DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION SECOND. SECOND, MOTION A SECOND. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MISS SHERRY READY TO VOTE.
[7.2 School Contracts]
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MOTION PASSES. UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 7.2 SCHOOL CONTRACTS.DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION? SECOND, MOTION A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. IF NOT, MISS SHERRY READY TO VOTE. YEAH, I WANT TO DO IT AT THE END.
MOTION PASS UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. WE HAVE OUR OUR OUR SCHOOL BOARD ATTORNEY, MR. MIKE JENNINGS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND HIS REPORT. HE IS NOT HE HAS A MEETING. SO HE'S GOING TO BE LATE. BUT WHEN HE DOES SHOW UP, WE WILL PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT SITUATION AS IT AS IT WHEREVER IT FITS IN OUR SCHEDULE, THE BEST. BUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER
[10.1 Director's Report]
SECTION EIGHT AND SECTION NINE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT INTO SECTION TEN DIRECTOR'S REPORT. MR. MAYFIELD SIR GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MR. MACK AND MR. PADILLA ON THEIR REELECTION AND ALSO MR. MCPEEK AND MR. DONEGAN, WHO WILL BE FILLING ZONES TWO AND ZONES ZONE SIX SEATS FOR THIS NEXT CYCLE. SO THANK YOU GUYS.APPRECIATE YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MISS MCGEE, BUT I THINK WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER. I'VE GOT YOU UPDATED ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ON THERE, OF COURSE, ON THE COVER SHEET. BUT BEHIND THAT YOU HAVE DAY TEN NUMBERS. SO OVERALL, 20,628 STUDENTS. SO WE HAVEN'T GROWN A LOT SINCE LAST YEAR. I KNOW LAST YEAR WE WERE PUSHING 20,800 AT ONE POINT. SO IT'S KIND OF LEVELED OFF A LITTLE BIT. I ALSO INCLUDED THE NUMBERS BY SCHOOL SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE EACH SCHOOL IS. AND I WILL HAVE ALL OF OUR SCHOOL CAPACITY DATA UPDATED TO FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN THE LAST SHEET YOU HAVE IS A CLASS SIZE AVERAGE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGES BY EACH. YOU SEE THE GRADES ACROSS EACH SCHOOL, THEIR AVERAGES BY GRADE BAND.
WE HAVE STATE REQUIREMENTS IN K THREE AND THEN K SORRY GRADES FOUR THROUGH SIX AND THEN 712.
OF COURSE CTE HAS A SPECIAL AVERAGE FOR BOTH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW OUR DISTRICT COMPARES AS FAR ACROSS THE DISTRICT IN REGARDS TO CLASS SIZES. YOU ALSO HAVE THE SCHOOL TRIPS AND THEN CONSTRUCTION. I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE REACHED OUT TO RACKLEY ROOFING ABOUT A. USING THE OMNIA PURCHASING CONTRACT, WHICH WE'VE USED IN THE PAST IN ORDER TO GET COST ESTIMATES FOR CAROL OAKLAND AND POSSIBLE REPAIRS AT SPRINGDALE ELEMENTARY. SPRINGDALE IS NOT THAT OLD, BUT WE HAVE HAD CONSTANT PROBLEMS WITH THAT ROOF EVER SINCE IT WAS BUILT, AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE MANUFACTURER. WE WORKED WITH TWO DIFFERENT ROOFING COMPANIES PRIOR THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE ROOFING MANUFACTURER. SO I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT POSSIBILITIES RACKLEY CAN COME UP AS FAR AS A SOLUTION FOR THAT ROOF. ONCE I GET THOSE PROPOSALS BACK, I WILL BE BRINGING THOSE TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. HVAC IS THE OTHER LARGE CONCERN. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM SCHOOLS. WE HAVE A LOT OF AGING HVAC EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE DISTRICT, AND IT'S NOT CONCENTRATED NECESSARILY AT ANY ONE PLACE. BUT SOME OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WE'VE REPLACED UNITS AS THEY WENT OUT. SO SOME ARE NEWER, SOME ARE OLDER. WE HAVEN'T DONE AN ACROSS THE BOARD SWAP LIKE WE DID AT MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL LAST YEAR WITH THE ROOF TOPS. ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THAT, ALL OF THEM ON THE ROOFTOP AT MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL IS BECAUSE IT COST SO MUCH TO INSTALL THOSE. IN ADDITION, THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF CURB ADAPTERS. YOU HAVE TO. ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS IN ORDER TO GAS LINES.
ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS PLAY INTO THAT. SO IF YOU TRY TO REPLACE ONE, YOU STILL GOT TO GET A CRANE, WHICH COSTS A LOT OF MONEY IN ORDER TO MOUNT THOSE. WHEN YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL AGING ONES, IT'S CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN TO REPLACE THOSE LIKE THAT. BUT WE ARE WORKING ON A PLAN TO COME UP WITH, I'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION IN HERE TONIGHT THAT WILL, I THINK, GIVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO THAT AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. MOTION TO ACCEPT. OH WAIT WAIT WAIT. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. I'LL SECOND AND THEN I'LL ASK MY QUESTIONS IF IT'S
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OKAY. LOOKING BACK ON THE ATTENDANCE, THE WITHDRAWALS OR THE DROPOUTS. WHY? WHY DO YOU KNOW? DO WE KNOW WHY THAT NUMBER IS UP? IS THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST? YES. THOSE ARE ALL THE STUDENTS THAT POTENTIALLY MOVED AWAY OR WITHDREW TO ANOTHER SCHOOL. BUT THEY DON'T EVER THEY DON'T COMPLETE THAT PAPERWORK UNTIL SCHOOL STARTS IN THE SUMMER.THE SECOND TO LAST BULLET, PARDON? THE SECOND TO LAST BULLET. ARE YOU ON THE COVER SHEET? THIS ONE? YES. AND THEN THE SECOND. WITHDRAWN TO OUT OF STATE OR COUNTRY. KEEP GOING.
HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT. IT LOOKS LIKE. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR. TWO UP TO EIGHT. MAYBE THAT'S NOT. MAYBE COMPARED TO ANOTHER YEAR OVER THE SUMMER AS WELL, BECAUSE SENIORS HAVE THE OPTION TO GRADUATE ON TIME THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE OR A LATE DATE IN JUNE. SO IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY WOULD BE ADDED TO THIS LIST. OKAY. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY MIGHT NOT COME BACK INTO THE ADULT HIGH SCHOOL EITHER. SO THAT'S STILL AN OPTION. THANK YOU FOR THE SHEET. THAT REALLY WAS INFORMATIVE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HR OR WAS HE GOING TO LET. MR. ED, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? SORRY, I COMPLETELY SKIPPED OVER THAT PART. THAT'S OKAY. WE ARE. IT'S OKAY. WE'RE IN DISCUSSION STILL.
SO IT'S ALL GOOD. I AM SORRY. SO LET ME GET TO THAT SHEET. THAT'S IT, MISS OWENS, IS THAT CORRECT? MINE IS. IT'S NUMBER TWO. THIS IS SECOND PAGE, SIR. THE VERY TOP, MR. ADAMS. THERE WE GO. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, SIR. DOCTOR COTHRAN IS ILL TONIGHT, SO SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE FEELS BETTER, MISS OWENS. I PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION. MELISSA LYNN HAD ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT ABSENCES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE INFORMATION. ONE PAGE IS ABOUT CERTIFIED AND ONE PAGE IS ABOUT CLASSIFIED ABSENCES THAT ARE TRACKED ON FRONT LINE. ONLY THE E, A S AND THE TEACHERS ARE TRACKED ON FRONT LINE. OUR. OPENINGS ARE STILL VERY SMALL. MOST OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE OPEN RIGHT NOW ARE IN THE SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I WILL SAY ONE THING IN REGARDS TO THE HR REPORT. THERE'S A GENERAL ED OTHER ADMIN THAT'S OPEN ONE POSITION. THAT IS A SUMMER LEARNING COORDINATOR THAT WASN'T FILLED LAST YEAR. SO BECAUSE I QUESTIONED THAT, THAT'S WHY IT'S CIRCLED. MR. SEBASTIAN.
GOOD EVENING. NEXT MONTH I'LL START BRINGING YOU GUYS THE REPORT FOR THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND. THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONTRIBUTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS THE BENEFITS HOLIDAY. IT'LL START AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. AS FAR AS THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND, I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY BOMBARDING US WITH THE BILLING PAST COUPLE WEEKS. THIS WEEK, THE BILLING THAT WE RECEIVED WAS 1.2 MILLION. LAST WEEK IT WAS RIGHT AT UNDER A MILLION. SO THE BILLINGS FOR MEDICAL EXPENSES HAVE BEEN COMING IN PRETTY HEAVY OVER THE SUMMER. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'LL START BRINGING THOSE REPORTS TO YOU GUYS NEXT MONTH. AND THEN WE'LL JUST KIND OF LOOK AT PROJECTIONS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES. THAT WOULD BE MY FINAL. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE MR. MACK AND MISS FARROW. MR. MACK MADE THE MOTION AND MISS JAMIE SECOND. SO WE'RE IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
MOTION PASSES. UNANIMOUS 6 TO 0. THANK YOU SIR. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM
[11.1 Recommendation to Approve West Wilson Utility District Agreement]
THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS. THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE WES WILSON UTILITY DISTRICT AGREEMENT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND PLEASE GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. SO, SIR, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TO EXPLAIN THE REQUEST. I'M THE DISTRICT ENGINEER, WES WILSON, UTILITY DISTRICT DREW HAMLIN, ENGINEERS ASSISTANT. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN. WE'RE NEEDING AN EASEMENT. CITY IS GOING TO BE WIDENING AND RELOCATING. GOLDENBERG WATER LINES IN. IT'S GOING TO BE GONE. SO WE GOT TO MOVE IT BACK ON TO Y'ALL'S PROPERTY A LITTLE FURTHER. AND THE ENTRANCE WILL BE ON THE. THE ONLY ENTRANCE[00:35:01]
WILL BE AFFECTED WILL BE THE NORTH ENTRANCE TO YOUR HIGH SCHOOL. WE WILL NOT CLOSE THAT DURING ANY SCHOOL TIME. IF WE HAVE TO, WE'LL OPEN CUT IT DURING THE NIGHT, WHATEVER.ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE AND GET READY TO START CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO CONTACT TO WHERE WE CAN WORK AROUND THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE UP THERE THAT. MR. MAYFIELD. YES, SIR. WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. JUST SO YOU'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE WITH THE CITY ON THE WIDENING PROJECT. SO THIS IS WHAT'S NECESSITATING THE THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A WATERLINE IN GOLDEN BEAR? THAT'S THAT'S WATERLINE ON ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, EIGHT INCH WATERLINE, RIGHT AT PROBABLY TEN FEET OFF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY NOW COMES ACROSS THE FRONT AND ACTUALLY LOOPS AROUND YOUR SCHOOL. SO IS IT A DEPTH PROBLEM THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE WAY WITH THE CITY'S WIDENING, OR IS THAT IS THAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE CITY WIDE? AND DOES THEIR GRADING PUTS IN THEIR STORM LINE? WE GOT TO BE TEN FEET AWAY FROM CERTAIN THINGS TO MEET STATE REGULATIONS. WE WE GOT IT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN COORDINATING COMPLETELY ON THE DEPTH SEPARATION AND ALL THAT WITH THE CITY. SO IT'S THIS ALIGNMENT WHEN THEY GO TO WIDEN THE ROAD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE CITY OF, I THINK, TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO GET ALL THE UTILITIES RELOCATED PRIOR TO AWARDING A CONTRACT. IF YOU GO OUT THERE NOW, THE SEWER, SEWER IS RELOCATING THEIR SEWER LINES NORTH OF THE SCHOOL ON UP GOLDENBERG. AND WE WE'VE GOT TO MOVE IT. SO ULTIMATELY, IS THIS GOING TO BE IN THE ROADWAY THEN? NO, IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING ON YOUR PROPERTY. IT'LL ALWAYS BE EVEN WHEN IT'S WIDENED. IT'LL STILL BE IN OUR PARKWAY. THIS ONE WILL BE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. IF THAT WAY, IF THEY WIDEN IT AGAIN, SOMEBODY ELSE GETS TO PAY FOR IT. WE PUT A WATER LINE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ROAD GETS WIDENED AND HAS TO BE MOVED. WATER LINE OR THE WATER LINE HAS TO BE MOVED. THE DISTRICT HAS TO PAY FOR IT. AND MOST AND IT'S NOT GOOD PRACTICE FOR THE WATER LINE OUT IN BRAND NEW ROADS. WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING A LEAK. IT'S.
SO THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THIS. IS THAT WHO'S PAYING FOR THE INSTALLATION? YOU GUYS ARE. THE CITY IS. I WAS CONFUSED BY THAT AS FAR AS THIS WORK. YEAH. IS BEING WILL BE INSTALLING IT.
OKAY. BUT ARE YOU BEING CITY'S FUNDING CITY'S FUNDING PAYING CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN EIGHT INCH.
WE'RE UPGRADING TO THE 12. THE CITY WILL BE PAYING FOR EIGHT INCH PART. WE'LL BE PAYING FOR THE EXTRA INCREASE AND ANY IMPACTS IN TERMS OF THIS ALIGNMENT WITH THE OPERATION OF OUR SCHOOL IN TERMS OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE AT ALL. WELL, THE SCHOOL WILL NOT BE OUT OF WATER.
OKAY. WE'VE GOT ENOUGH VALVES WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE CONNECTIONS. IF IT'S ANY. IF ANYTHING'S GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN, IT'LL BE DONE AT THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND WE OPEN BACK UP. WE'VE GOT ENOUGH AVAILABLE. WE CAN FEED FROM THE SOUTH SIDE ALL THE WAY AROUND FOR THE NORTH SIDE, ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND WE GOT VALVES IN THERE THAT UNLESS SOMETHING GOES TERRIBLY, WE'LL HAVE WATER. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN FEED THE SCHOOL DURING ALL OF THIS SO THAT YOU HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS IN PLACE. OKAY. YEAH. AND IF WE'RE SKEPTICAL, IT'S BECAUSE WITH THESE CONTRACTS WITH WASTEWATER AUTHORITY AND LIKE, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'RE A LITTLE, WE'RE A LITTLE PTSD OF LIKE, WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, THESE ARE THE GOOD GUYS. I CAN VOUCH FOR THEM. OKAY. I'VE BUILT ROADS IN MOUNT JULIET AND I'VE HAD THESE GUYS MOVE UTILITIES AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB. GOOD. AND SO IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY HOLD HARMLESS TO OUR SCHOOL WHEN THIS HAPPENS, AS FAR AS IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG OR AWRY WITH COSTS OR ANYTHING, OR IS THAT COMPLETELY ON THE CITY AND ON YOU GUYS? IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN ON OUR PROPERTY TO ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS TOUCH, IT'D BE ON US. IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING ON Y'ALL, OKAY? BASICALLY, YOU'RE JUST ASKING US TO ALLOW YOU TO MOVE THE WATER LINE ONTO OUR PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. AND IF WE SAID NO, WHAT'S. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPTION NOW IS ON YOUR PROPERTY. SO YOU JUST WANT US TO MOVE IT FURTHER ONTO OUR PROPERTY AND UPGRADE IT. SO UPGRADE IT AND MOVE IT. IS THAT WHAT GREG. YOU GET THE UNDERSTANDING THE OPTION. JUST KEEPING IT WHERE IT WAS WASN'T KEEPING IT WHERE IT IS BECAUSE OF THE SEPARATION ISSUE WITH THE STORM DRAIN INSERTION, WHERE THE. GRADE, IT JUST WON'T, IT WON'T WORK. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 3500FT FROM JUST NORTH OF YOUR SOUTH ENTRANCE, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOUR WAY STOP. OKAY, SO OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY REAL CONCERN IS JUST THE IMPACTS THE CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE WITH THE. YEAH. WITH THE OPERATION, I
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WOULD ASSIGN SOMEBODY YOU COULD COORDINATE WITH THE PRINCIPAL, BUT ALSO OUR MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR. THE LAST FEW TIMES WE'VE WORKED AROUND MAYBE WEST OR WHATEVER, WE TRIED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOL AND WORK WITH YOU, BECAUSE I DRIVE IT EVERY MORNING AND IT'S A NIGHTMARE. SO BUT I MEAN, WE'D BE DOING WORK AT NIGHT. IDEAL TIME MIGHT BE A WINTER BREAK. SPRING BREAK, YOU KNOW, BUT CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT ANYTHING BUT THAT YOUR ENTRANCE WOULD NOT BE CLOSED DURING THE DAY. LAST QUESTION FOR YOU THEN. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE LIKE? WHAT DID THEY WHAT DID THE CITY TELL YOU? THIS HAD TO BE COMPLETED BY. THEY'VE NOT GIVEN US A DATE TO GET IT COMPLETED. THEY JUST TURNED US LOOSE TO START ACQUIRING EASEMENTS TWO MONTHS AGO. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AS SOON AS WE GET EASEMENTS, WE'LL START CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TO DO ON IT. SEVERAL BOARDS, ROAD CROSSINGS INSTEAD OF OPEN CUTTING, GO THERE. WE'RE GOING TO ABORT. AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR US JUST TO HAVE MAYBE ANOTHER MEETING OR HAVE YOU GUYS COME BACK. JUST EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE IMPACT MIGHT BE OR, OR MAYBE GIVE YOU A REPORT OF KIND OF HOW THAT JUST SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND AND WE CAN MAKE OUR PARENTS AWARE AS THEY'RE DRIVING. TYPICALLY, WE WOULD COORDINATE BEFORE THE PROJECT STARTS ABOUT THE SCHEDULE, SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. AS LONG AS YOU'RE THERE, YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THERE THAT. YES, I'M PRETTY SURE. YEAH, MAYBE WE GOT TO MOVE IT. Y'ALL GOT TO HAVE A SCHOOL. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE CAN'T BUTTHEADS.YEAH. SO YEAH, AS LONG AS MR. MAYFIELD, YOU HAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, WE CAN.
AND IF WE ASK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TELL US WHEN IT STARTS AROUND THE SCHOOL, USUALLY THE PRINCIPAL KEEPS US. NOW WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS GOING ON TONIGHT OR SOMETHING. AND YEAH, AND THERE'S SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AT THESE SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S A GOOD THING. YES. I THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY TO VOTE. READY TO VOTE, MR. CHAIR? READY TO VOTE.
MOTION PASSED. UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING HERE. MOVING ON TO ITEM
[11.2 Recommendation to Approve FRC Questionnaires]
11.2 RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FRC QUESTIONNAIRES. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. AND SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE EVERYONE. YOU HAVE A COPY OF THEM? OF COURSE. THEY'RE ONLINE TO. I GUESS ANY QUESTIONNAIRES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE GIVE THEM OUT TO STUDENTS. BRING ALL THOSE TO THE BOARD. OKAY. AND WE'VE USED THIS IN THE PAST. OKAY. WAS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THIS FROM THE LAST ONE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I DON'T SEE ANY ON THERE EITHER. YES, MA'AM.[11.3 Recommendation to Approve Policy 5.303 on First Reading]
MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.3. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE POLICY. 5.303 ON FIRST READING. LET'S BACK UP FOR A SECOND. IF WE MAKE A MOTION, IS THIS THIS RECOMMENDATION? DO I HAVE DO WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO BREAK THE RULES AND APPROVE IT ON FIRST READING, OR CAN IT COME BACK FOR SECOND READING? I THINK WE CAN COME BACK FOR A SECOND.OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION, I'LL SECOND GO. SO WHAT THIS DOES, IT ALIGNS THE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE IN REGARDS TO PERSONAL AND SICK LEAVE TO BOTH CLASSIFIED AND CERTIFIED. THE STATE SAID CERTIFIED AS A DISTRICT, I FEEL LIKE I. MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE INCLUDE BOTH CERTIFIED AS WELL, CERTIFIED AND CLASSIFIED, SO THAT THEY RECEIVE THE SAME BENEFIT THAT THE CERTIFIED TEACHERS ARE RECEIVING. ANY DISCUSSION. IF NOT. MR. YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK, AND MAYBE IT WAS AND IT WAS JUST MISCOMMUNICATED. BUT I HAD SOME REACH OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, I HEARD THAT THE SICK DAYS GOT CHANGED. WHEN WE HAVE A POLICY FROM THE STATE OR US OR WHOEVER, CAN WE MAKE SURE LIKE ON ONE OF THE FIRST DAYS BACK, THAT TEACHERS ARE MADE AWARE OF CHANGES LIKE THIS BECAUSE APPARENTLY SOME OF THE I THOUGHT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT APPARENTLY SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO EVERYBODY. OH, OKAY, THEN I APOLOGIZE. I WAS LOOKING AT MISS OWENS BECAUSE I WAS
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99.9% SURE THAT THAT DID TAKE PLACE. SO YES, EARLY ON. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUS[11.4 Recommendation to Approve Two New SPED EA Positions]
SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.4. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE TWO NEW SPED EA POSITIONS.MOTION SECOND. SO MOTION A SECOND REQUEST IS DUE TO THE FACT WE HAVE A NEED IN OUR SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF. IN REGARDS TO THE EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE. MR. SEBASTIAN WENT BACK THROUGH THE BUDGET OF LAST YEAR TO EVALUATE HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY SPENT, AND COMPARED THAT TO THE POSITIONS. AND HE FEELS LIKE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, OUR BUDGET IS CAPABLE OF TWO ADDITIONAL SUPPORT STAFF IN THAT LINE ITEM. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, MR. MAYFIELD, I'LL JUST MONITOR THE THE BUDGET FOR THAT CATEGORY. AND IF WE NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE'LL DO IT LATER IN THE YEAR. I DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE ANY MONEY RIGHT NOW, JUST AS WE HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT KIND OF MOVE AROUND, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN SOME OTHER LINES THAT, IF NEEDED, I CAN MOVE IT WITHIN THE SAME CATEGORY WITHOUT HAVING TO TOUCH ANY TYPE OF FUND BALANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO AT THE TIME, I KNOW IT SEEMS WEIRD. WE'RE REQUESTING TWO POSITIONS WITH NO BUDGET AMENDMENTS. JUST THE STRATEGY RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO MONITOR BUDGET FOR A FEW MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD TO SEE IF WE NEED TO MOVE ANY MONEY LATER ON. ANY IDEA WHERE THESE WHERE THESE POSITIONS WOULD BE WITH SCHOOL. CURRENTLY, WE'RE EVALUATING GREEN HILL HIGH SCHOOL. MR. ADAMS DOES. YES, DUE TO. I'D A. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO SHARE STUDENT IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION PUBLICLY. FAIR ENOUGH. I GUESS IT'S SAFE TO SAY THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF POSITION IS INFINITE, AND WE COULD USE ALL WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON, CORRECT? YES. I MEAN, WE DO HAVE STUDENTS THAT NEW STUDENTS THAT MOVE INTO OUR DISTRICT THAT HAVE CERTAIN NEEDS THAT WE MUST FULFILL BASED ON THEIR IEP. SO WE WE ARE REQUIRED TO MEET THOSE. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO EVALUATE THE SERVICES. EVERY STUDENT. AND IF THERE IS A NEED, WE DO SCRUTINIZE THAT BEFORE WE JUST THROW MORE PEOPLE AT THE. THE SITUATION. BUT WHEN WE FIND A NEED, WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT'S THE BRILLIANCE. AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WE ACCEPT ALL STUDENTS. SO IF SOMEBODY SHOWS UP WITHIN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT'S SPECIAL, THAT SHOWS UP WHEN YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM. SO WE GOT TO HAVE THESE THINGS, THESE POSITIONS READY. SO OKAY.
THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE, MR. JERRY.
[11.5 Recommendation to Approve Mid Cumberland Community Action MOU Head Start]
MOTION PASS. UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.5. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE MID CUMBERLAND COMMUNITY ACTION MOU HEAD START MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND YOU WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT IS A LITTLE BIT. IT'S JUST AN AGREEMENT THAT WE USE WITH MID CUMBERLAND IN ORDER TO SERVICE THOSE KIDS, THOSE THREE THROUGH FIVE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS THAT THEY SERVE. WE ALWAYS BRING THE MOU TO YOU TO APPROVE JUST OUTLINES WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'M READY TO VOTE MISS SHERRY.[11.6 Recommendation to Approve Johnson Controls MOU]
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.6. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE JOHNSON CONTROLS MOU. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. SO I WAS ONCE I STEPPED INTO THIS POSITION, I STARTED LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST IN REGARDS TO WITH JOHNSON CONTROL, WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE DID WITH THEM, THE LAST ONE BEING IN 2017, WE HAD A CONTRACT. THE FIRST ONE WAS FOR LIGHTING UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, AND THEN THAT WAS PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. WE DID SOME HVAC WORK THAT THEY WERE PART OF RECOMMENDING IN 2017. THE AGREEMENT LAPSED. IT'S NOT HAPPENED SINCE PART OF THAT AGREEMENT WAS MAINTENANCE OF AND SERVICE HOURS TO OUR SYSTEM TO HELP OUR TECHNICIANS MAKE[00:50:05]
SURE EVERYTHING IS IN PROPER WORKING ORDER. SO WHEN WE DIDN'T RENEW THE CONTRACT IN 2017, THAT'S STOPPED. THERE HAS BEEN NO EVALUATION OF THAT EQUIPMENT SINCE. JOHNSON CONTROL WILL DO A FREE EVALUATION THAT'S OUTLINED IN THIS MOU TO LOOK FOR INEFFICIENCY AND POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS. THAT IS, THAT IS THE CRUX BEHIND THE MOU. I DO FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO US TO EXPLORE THIS OPTION, TO HAVE THEM AN OUTSIDE PARTY EVALUATE, ESPECIALLY OUR HVAC. I MEAN THAT TO ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE HUGE AREAS THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR COST SAVINGS. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU SOMETIMES WHAT WHAT WE LOOK AT IS, OKAY, YOU'RE A COST SAVINGS BECAUSE THE THE LAST PROJECT WE DID, WE USED THE COST SAVINGS TO PAY FOR THE UPGRADES. NOW WE'RE STILL PAYING ON THAT. BUT WHAT WE STOP DOING WAS THE CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COST SAVINGS WERE THERE EACH AND EVERY YEAR TO PAY FOR THOSE UPGRADES. THAT WAS PART OF THAT CONTRACT. I'M NOT SAYING WE ENTER INTO THAT CONTRACT TONIGHT. WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS JUST APPROVE THE MOU TO LET THEM EVALUATE OUR SYSTEM AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH THEN I WOULD AGAIN BRING BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION POINTS AND SEE WHAT DIRECTION THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO. THIS DOES NOT. OBLIGATE US IN ANY FORM OR FASHION. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL. YEAH. WHICH SCHOOLS ARE THEY ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT. DISTRICT, DISTRICT. I MEAN, I SPECIFICALLY POINTED OUT SOME OF OUR K8S BECAUSE THIS I'M GOING TO SOUTHSIDE COMES TO THE TOP OF MY MIND. THERE IS THE OLDEST SECTION OF THE BUILDING IS IN THE MIDDLE. IT HAS THE OLD WALL UNITS THAT THEY HAD WHEN I WENT TO GRADE SCHOOL, OF COURSE, IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, OLD, OLD EQUIPMENT THAT WAS NOT UPGRADED. WHEN WE DID THOSE RENOVATIONS, RIGHT, WE ADDED ON TO THAT BUILDING. SAME THING WE DID AT CARROLL OAKLAND TUCKER'S LOTS OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE DISTRICT, BUT WE DIDN'T UPGRADE THE ENTIRE BUILDING. I REALLY WANT THEM TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE, ESPECIALLY ON THOSE BOILER AND CHILLER SYSTEMS, AND WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING THE PIPE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING, WELL, THE PIPES GOING TO RUST OUT EVENTUALLY. AND WE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WATERTOWN MIDDLE WAS IN SUCH A MESS IS BECAUSE NO REPLACEMENT HAD BEEN DONE ON, ON THAT SYSTEM AS FAR AS THE INTERNAL. SO I, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED SOMEBODY TO EVALUATE WHERE THAT SYSTEM IS AND WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO UPGRADE IT BECAUSE WE REPLACE SOME BOILERS AND CHILLERS IN THE PAST, BUT THE, THE LINES IN BETWEEN AND THE UNITS THAT SIT IN THE CLASSROOM, I KNOW THEY'RE OUT OF DATE. YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THEM. SO I'VE ASKED THEM TO SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT SCHOOLS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO EVALUATE SOME OF OUR OTHERS ACROSS ALL SCHOOLS. IN REALITY, THAT'S WHY THERE IS A THE TIMELINE IS FAIRLY EXTENSIVE, GOES INTO THE SPRING. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PREPARE THE STUDY FOR US AND THEN POTENTIALLY BID ON THE IMPROVEMENTS. IS THAT THE IDEA THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. OKAY. SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK FOR FOR US. WE APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GOAL WAS FOR THEM THAT THAT IS THAT'S THAT IS THE THING. WE CAN SAVE YOU MONEY AND WE'VE GOT THE EQUIPMENT TO DO IT AND WE CAN USE YOUR COST SAVINGS. YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT ZERO OUT OF POCKET COST BECAUSE YOU'RE TRANSFERRING INSTEAD OF PAYING THE UTILITIES, YOU'RE PAYING FOR EQUIPMENT. SO TIMESHARES, TIMESHARE METHOD, THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL ON US. SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE START BORROWING MONEY. YEAH. NO, NO, I DON'T WANT THAT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.ASKING FOR ASKING FOR FREE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO IS EVALUATE. WE'VE TASKED YOU WITH TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY DO IT. SO THIS IS PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING TO JUST LOOK AT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. SHERRY. MR. SHERRY READY TO VOTE.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.7. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE
[11.7 Recommendation to Approve Increase of Adult Meal Price by .25 per USDA Guidelines]
INCREASE OF ADULT MEAL PRICE BY 25 CENT PER USDA GUIDELINES. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE[00:55:03]
HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY. I MEAN, IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE USDA GUIDELINES, MISS HUTCHINS MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO ME THAT THIS WAS THE EASIEST WAY TO TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS IF NOT READY TO VOTE, MR. JERRY.MOTION PASS UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OLD BUSINESS. DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? IF WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. 13.1 MR. KEVIN MAC.
[13.1 Kevin Mack - Discussion Policy 4.301]
SIR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. OKAY, I GUESS I'LL OPEN UP BY MAKING THE MOTION. AND IF IT GETS A SECOND, THEN I CAN DO SOME EXPLAINING. BUT BASICALLY I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SENTENCE IN THE POLICY. 4.301 THAT CURRENTLY READS APPROVED. NONTRADITIONAL STUDENTS WILL PARTICIPATE AT THEIR OWN SCHOOL BY ADDING A COMMA AND SAYING, UNLESS THEY ARE GRANTED APPROVAL BY TSSAA TO PLAY OUT OF ZONE AND HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS. THAT'S MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY, SO JUST BY WAY OF A LITTLE OF BACKGROUND, THIS HAS TO DO WITH WITH THE ISSUE THAT MR. NELMS BROUGHT TO US, WHERE EVEN IF THE TSSAA DOES GRANT AN APPROVAL, AN EXEMPTION, A HARDSHIP, OR HOWEVER IT'S DONE RIGHT NOW, OUR POLICY DOESN'T HAVE ANY WAY FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THAT. AND SO I'M SIMPLY SAYING A NONTRADITIONAL, WHICH INCLUDES HOME SCHOOL STUDENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY OUT OF ZONE ONLY IF TWO THINGS HAPPEN. NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE GRANTED APPROVAL BY TSSAA TO PLAY OUT OF STATE. AND THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS, WHO I ASSUME WOULD BE IN CONSTANT CONSULTATION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS, ETC. AND THE PRINCIPALS OF THE SCHOOLS AND ETC. WOULD WOULD GIVE THAT APPROVAL. SO THE FIRST PHRASE, UNLESS THEY'RE GRANTED APPROVAL BY TSSAA TO PLAY OUT A ZONE, ENABLES WC S TO ALLOW HARDSHIP OR OTHER OUT-OF-ZONE APPROVALS FROM TSSAA IT PUTS THE ONUS ON THE STUDENTS TO OBTAIN THE TSSAA APPROVAL. THE SECOND PHRASE, AND HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS, PROTECTS US FROM ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES OR ABUSES OR EXPLOITATION OF THE OUTER ZONE PROCESS. AND A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, I DID SPEND A GOOD BIT OF TIME SPEAKING WITH BOTH TSSAA, THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THERE, COACH WOOD, WHO WAS THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT GREEN HILL WHEN I TAUGHT THERE, HE WAS ALSO MY ASSIGNED MENTOR, SO HE HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND OF THAT, AND I SPENT A GOOD BIT OF TIME TALKING WITH MR. WHITLOCK ON THE PHONE ABOUT THIS AS WELL. AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, THEY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAD AN ISSUE BEFORE. OUT OF ZONE WAS A THING THAT PEOPLE WOULD USE THE HOME SCHOOL SITUATION TO EXPLOIT THE OUTER, THE OUTER ZONE PROCESS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS GOT TO. AND SO REALLY, NOW THAT PLAYING OUT OF ZONE IS A THING THAT TRADITIONAL STUDENTS CAN DO ROUTINELY, THIS JUST SIMPLY, I THINK, BRINGS OUR POLICY INTO STEP WITH, WITH THE WAY THAT THE, THE TRADITIONAL STUDENTS CAN PLAY OUT OF ZONE. SO THAT'S IT. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE IT, BUT IT WAS THE BEST WAY I COULD COME UP WITH TO SOLVE IT. SO I WELCOME ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS OR INPUT OR ANYTHING, MR. MACK? YES, MA'AM. WRITTEN DOWN WHERE I CAN USE THAT TO IF YOU WOULD REPEAT IT FOR ME. YEAH, I DO, I'VE GOT IT WRITTEN DOWN.THAT'S PROBABLY THE EASIEST. GIVE ME A SCREENSHOT AND TEXT IT TO YOU, MISS. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'LL BE FINE. OKAY, THANKS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. THE TSSAA. WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY CAN GRANT AN EXCEPTION. IS THAT IN THE POLICY SOMEWHERE THAT THEY HAVE IN WRITING. SO DO YOU MIND. I CAN YEAH, I CAN EXPLAIN. ALRIGHT. SO THEY DO ALLOW A
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SCHOOL TO SUBMIT A HARDSHIP REQUEST FOR A STUDENT ATHLETE. OKAY. THE PARENT CANNOT ORIGINATE THAT REQUEST. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, MR. NELMS, HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL SUBMIT A HARDSHIP REQUEST ON HIS BEHALF. WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS A STUDENT GOES TO A SCHOOL, THEY START PRACTICING, AND THEN THEY DETERMINE WHEN THEY'RE FILLING OUT THE ELIGIBILITY PAPERWORK. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR WHATEVER REASON. THEN THE SCHOOL SUBMITS THE HARDSHIP REQUEST. THIS SITUATION IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT BECAUSE BEFORE THEY EVER STARTED THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE HAS BEEN NO PRACTICE WITH NEITHER LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL NOR WILSON CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. AND ONCE YOU HAVE THREE DAYS OF PRACTICE, YOU BASICALLY YOU'RE COMMITTED ELIGIBILITY WISE. ALL RIGHT. SO IF MR. NELMS HAD BEEN PRACTICING THIS PAST WEEK, HE'S GOT 3 TO 5 DAYS IN. THERE IS NO WAY IF HE WASN'T GRANTED THE HARDSHIP, HE WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO WILSON CENTRAL AND BECOME ELIGIBLE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. ONCE YOU START PRACTICING, YOU'RE LIMITED. AND THEN IF YOU'RE DENIED, IT'S YOU'RE SITTING OUT A YEAR. NOW, THE HOMESCHOOL SITUATION IS DIFFERENT CURRENTLY, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE TSSAA POLICY CURRENTLY SAYS THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SCHOOL ZONE. I THINK IT USES THE WORD TERRITORY. BUT IN ESSENCE OUR SCHOOL ZONE. OR IN THE ZONED SCHOOL. ACTUALLY THERE IS THREE ZONED SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE A 20 MILE RADIUS. SO THEY ARE IN WILSON CENTRAL ZONE. THEY'RE ALSO IN FRIENDSHIP CHRISTIAN ZONE AND ALSO IN MOUNT JULIET CHRISTIAN ZONE, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE HE DOES NOT LIVE IN THAT SCHOOL ZONE. NOW, I KNOW THEY HAVE SAID YES, THEY COULD. THERE'S AN AVENUE TO GRANT A HARDSHIP.THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN AVENUE FOR THAT BECAUSE TSSAA HAS TO PROVIDE DUE PROCESS. ANYTIME THEY MAKE A DECISION, IF IT'S CHALLENGED. OKAY. SO THAT IS WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY. THERE IS ALSO THE DISCUSSION TSSAA PERSON I TALKED TO FEELS LIKE THAT THIS ONE ISSUE WILL COME TO THE LEGISLATURE IN THE NEW SESSION OF 27. THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE AND EVEN I SAID THIS, IT IS NOT THE SAME FOR HOMESCHOOLS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ONE TIME TRANSFER RULE. CURRENTLY THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT OPTION. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. THE REASONING PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DON'T KNOW WHY OTHER THAN THE. THE ONE TIME TRANSFER WAS INITIATED BY LEGISLATURE.
RIGHT. SO WE CAN HAVE A STUDENT GO FROM GREEN HILL TO MOUNT JULIET BETWEEN THEIR SOPHOMORE AND JUNIOR YEAR AND THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY ELIGIBLE IF THAT'S THE FIRST TIME. OKAY.
NOW, IF THEY WANT TO GO BACK FOR THEIR SENIOR YEAR, THEY WILL BE INELIGIBLE. THEY CANNOT PLAY THE SECOND YEAR. MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU MOVE, LET'S SAY THAT SAME STUDENT MOVES TO DICKSON COUNTY. WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY USED YOUR ONE TIME TRANSFER GOING FROM GREEN HILL TO MOUNT JULIET JUST BECAUSE YOU MOVED TO GREEN TO DICKSON COUNTY, YOU ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY ELIGIBLE THAT WHICH YOU WERE PREVIOUS. SO NOW THAT STUDENT WOULD HAVE TO THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE TO FILE A HARDSHIP ON BEHALF OF THAT STUDENT, SAYING IT'S UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER PLAY SPORTS AT MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT.
THAT PROCESS WOULD PROBABLY TAKE PLACE. THAT IS NOT AFFORDED HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS ACCORDING TO THE TSSAA. CURRENTLY, OUR POLICY MATCHES TSSAA POLICY AS OF TODAY. NOW WHEN TSSAA INITIALLY STARTED THE HOMESCHOOL OPTION THEIR WORDING WAS DISTRICT. THE STUDENT HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY LIVED. ALL RIGHT, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE WILSON COUNTY DEVELOPED THE POLICY. YOU ATTEND YOUR. YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN YOUR ZONED SCHOOL. AND. WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL, I HAD A COACH WHO HAD A HOMESCHOOL STUDENT WHO WANTED TO PLAY AT WILSON CENTRAL AND COULD NOT BECAUSE HE DID NOT GO TO THE WILSON CENTRAL. HE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE WILSON CENTRAL ZONE. NOW, I ALSO KNEW WHAT THE TSSAA POLICY. SO MR. NELMS IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAID I DIDN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE
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TRAVIS MAYFIELD DID NOT LIKE IT, BECAUSE THAT SITUATION NOW I DIDN'T I WAS NOT AWARE BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY MY LAST HOMESCHOOL SITUATION I DEALT WITH. THAT WAS A POTENTIAL OUT OF ZONE THAT THE TSSAA CHANGED THEIR POLICY, WHICH ACTUALLY MIRRORS OURS. NOW THAT THE STUDENT MUST PARTICIPATE IN THE ZONE IN WHICH THEY RESIDE. SO I KNOW THE TSSAA HAS SAID THAT THEY IT'LL BE FINE. IT'LL BE FINE TO APPLY FOR THE HARDSHIP. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHAT THEY WILL DO. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WILL NOT GRANT HARDSHIPS FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. SO I'VE GOT THE HANDBOOK PULLED UP AND I'M LOOKING AT. IT'S THE 2627 HANDBOOK AND I'M LOOKING AT NONTRADITIONAL STUDENT RULES. AND I DON'T I REALLY DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT A HARDSHIP HERE.I'M SURE IF YOU SAY IT'S A THING, IT'S GOT TO BE HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT. IT WAS IN PART OF THE EMAIL, I THINK INITIALLY, I CAN'T REMEMBER. I'VE SENT A COUPLE NOW. I GUESS MY MY COMMENT WAS WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS IT, UNLESS IT'S IN WRITING, I DON'T ALWAYS BELIEVE IT. I WANT TO SEE IT IN THE WRITING. THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR IT HERE. YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD ECHO THAT. WHAT EXACTLY DO WE GET FROM THE TSSA? WOULD WE GET FROM THEM? I MEAN, IS IT A, IS IT A LIKE A LETTER THAT SAYS WE'RE OKAY WITH IT? I MEAN, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PROCEDURAL APPROVAL FOR. WELL, THE SO IF YOU WAS TO ALLOW THIS STUDENT, IF YOU. BASICALLY THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL TO SUBMIT A HARDSHIP ON BEHALF OF MR. NELMS TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PLAY AT LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING. I DON'T KNOW WHY MY COMPUTER JUST WENT DARK. I THINK MY QUESTION AND MR. WHITLOCK, I DON'T KNOW WHO KNOWS THIS? WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT? DO YOU DO WE KNOW, MR. WHITLOCK? TIME FRAME ON HARDSHIPS IS FAIRLY QUICK TURNAROUND, CORRECT? YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD THREE AND MR. PAGE 20 AT THE END OF ARTICLE TWO HAS THE SECTION ON EXCEPTIONAL CASES INVOLVING HARDSHIP, SO THAT EXCEPTIONAL CASES. THANK YOU. I WAS STILL ON PAGE 17. EXCEPTIONAL CASE TSS SAYS THAT THE THE EXCEPTIONAL CASE DUE TO UNFORESEEN AND UNAVOIDABLE CIRCUMSTANCES. CIRCUMSTANCES CAUSES THE STUDENT TO FAIL TO SATISFY THE ELIGIBILITY RULE FOR UNFORESEEN OR UNAVOIDABLE APPLICATION. THE RULE WORKS AN UNDUE HARDSHIP IN LIGHT OF THE UNFORESEEN OR UNAVOIDABLE CIRCUMSTANCES. SO AND AND HISTORICALLY, THIS HAS BEEN.
AND THIS IS FOR ALL, ALL ELIGIBILITY RULES FOR THE TSS, RIGHT? OTHER THAN YOU TURN 19 BEFORE YOUR SENIOR YEAR, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD EIGHT SEMESTERS OF HIGH SCHOOL. YOU GRADUATED.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS PER T2. LET'S PLAY BYLAWS THAT YOU CANNOT FILE A HARDSHIP ON.
EVERYTHING ELSE. EVERYTHING ELSE YOU IS IS ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS. YOU CAN FILE HARDSHIP ON WHAT WAS THE FIRST. THAT WAS NOT WHY I CAME UP HERE. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? OH, OH, YES.
YES YES, YES, YES. ACCORDING TO THE HARDSHIP, YOU HAVE TO EITHER PRACTICE OR WALK THE HALLS FOR THREE DAYS. AND AS MR. MAYFIELD SAYS, THEN YOU CAN FILE THE HARDSHIP. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS THE FIRST STEP. IF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DENIES IT, IT CAN BE APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF CONTROL. BOARD OF CONTROL MEETS FOUR TIMES A YEAR. THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT NEXT STEP IN THE IN THE DUE PROCESS. BUT AS AS MR. MAYFIELD MENTIONED EARLIER, ONCE YOU PRACTICE FOR THREE DAYS, THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE TIED TO THAT TEAM. IF IT'S IF THAT HARDSHIP IS DENIED, YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO YOUR ZONE. THIS THE THE, THE SCHOOL THAT YOU WERE ZONED FOR AS A NONTRADITIONAL STUDENT. BUT THE, THE FIRST STAGE IS PRETTY QUICK.
THE SECOND STAGE MAY BE A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF. JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THAT BORDER CONTROL JUST MET LAST WEEK OR YESTERDAY. I'M NOT SURE. YES, BUT THEY THEY JUST MET RECENTLY, SO IT'LL BE IT'LL BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY MEET AGAIN. I'LL JUST GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD SIR.
YOU GO AHEAD. IN TERMS OF JUST THE RISK, WE DON'T HAVE OUR ATTORNEY HERE RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ANY THING THAT YOU COULD FORESEE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE?
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THAT'S AS THIS POLICY IS WRITTEN OR AS IT'S AMENDED, THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY PUT US IN SOME KIND OF A QUAGMIRE. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT. I DON'T FORESEE RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF OFF OFFHAND WOULD BE, HAVE WE ENFORCED THIS ALREADY WITH OTHER HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS? AND THEY WEREN'T AFFORDED THAT. YEAH. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. YEAH.AND WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? ARE YOU GOOD, SIR, WITH THAT OR. YEAH. OKAY. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN. YOU'RE FINE SIR. JUST MY POSITION IS, IS ONE I COULD SEE US IF WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO START NEXT YEAR. IT'S JUST MY OPINION. I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD JUMP RIGHT INTO. AND I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR, FOR THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL YOUNG MAN'S CASE, I DO I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE HOME SCHOOL COMMUNITY. OKAY, I THERE HAS TO BE A ZONE. IN MY OPINION. THIS IS JUST THIS IS JUST JOE. THERE HAS TO BE A ZONE. SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE LAST HOUSE. DO WE WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT RIGHT NOW? OKAY. ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THESE MOVING PARTS, WITH ALL THESE TRANSFER RULES IS IS INCLUDING HOME SCHOOLS IN THOSE.
IS IT RIGHT FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW? ALL RIGHT. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT LHS NUMBERS TO SEE IF LEBANON IS EVEN OPEN ENROLLMENT OR WHAT THEIR CAPACITY IS, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE CLOSE TO THEIR CAPACITY. OKAY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISCRIMINATION, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT I LOOK AT IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES TO ME, IT'S APPLES TO ORANGES. AND THEY'RE BOTH GREAT BECAUSE I LOVE APPLES AND I LOVE ORANGES. OKAY. I LOVE THE HOME SCHOOL COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. BUT BUT I LOOK AT THEM DIFFERENTLY. YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT ENROLLMENT, YOU KNOW, ENROLLED STUDENTS, THEY HAVE TO MEET ACADEMIC, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENTS, ACADEMIC STANDARDS, SCHOOL DISCIPLINE POLICIES. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS MEET STATE ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY RULES, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO ALL THE SAME DAY TO DAY EXPECTATIONS. OKAY. SO THERE'S WE'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, APPLES TO ORANGES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU BRING THINGS LIKE UP AND YOU WANT TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR HOMESCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOU START GETTING INTO, OKAY, NOW TSSAA IS ALLOWING SPORTS. NOW, IS THAT GOING TO ALLOW US TO OPEN UP FOR, YOU KNOW, OTHER EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE CREATING HARDSHIPS FOR SPORTS. WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS FOR BAND? WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS FOR SO ONCE AGAIN, IF, IF IT WERE APPLES TO APPLES, I COULD SEE. AND WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS IN THE PAST, WE'VE DENIED WHERE WE HAD TEACHERS THAT HAD A HOMESCHOOL STUDENT THAT WE WOULD NOT ALLOW TO BRING THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN CHILD TO, TO, TO, TO, TO WORK WITH THAT. OKAY. AND I KNOW WE'RE UNDER A DIFFERENT UMBRELLA RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IF WE WATCH AND LET THESE THINGS SETTLE AND LET IT WORK FOR A YEAR, IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO, TO, TO APPROACH THIS INSTEAD OF CREATING AN URGENT MATTER OF THIS. AND LIKE I SAID, I REALLY SYMPATHIZE FOR THIS. THIS YOUNG MAN, HE, HE, HE, HE'S FOLLOWED ALL THE STEPS. HE'S DONE EVERYTHING. BUT SOMETIMES THIS IS, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE INSTANCE, IT'S ABOUT CREATING A PRECEDENT WITHIN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. IT JUST PLAIN ISN'T FAIR. OKAY. YOU, A REGULAR STUDENT, CAN PLAY OUT OF ZONE. A HOME SCHOOL STUDENT CAN'T BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE EXPLOITING THE RULE. THAT'S CORRECT. WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO FIX THAT. WE SIMPLY SAY IF TSSAA SAYS THEY CAN. AND OUR DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS SAYS THEY CAN. IT DOESN'T. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE TSSAA SITUATION. WE JUST NEED TO HEAR FROM THEM WHETHER THEY'VE APPROVED THE APPLICATION OR NOT.
WAITING TILL NEXT YEAR ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE A THING, LEGALLY OR OTHERWISE. WELL, I DO FEEL LIKE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO CHANGE IT. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THE TSSAA THIS IS NOW THIS IS TRAVIS MAYFIELD. OH I AGREE WITH YOU. IT WILL GET CHANGED. I THINK IT WILL BE CHANGED TO WHERE HOMESCHOOL WILL BE AFFORDED A ONE TIME TRANSFER RULE. NOW I THINK THE DISTRICTS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IS IT WITH WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT AND NOT.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ACROSS DISTRICT LINES TAKES PLACE NASHVILLE TO TO MOUNT JULIET, THAT SORT OF THING. PERSONALLY, BASED ON THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO AND WHAT I KNOW, I, I BELIEVE IF IF YOU ALLOW HIM TO SPEND THREE DAYS AT LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY APPLY FOR THE THE HARDSHIP, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE DENIED. AND HE WILL BE INELIGIBLE TO PLAY FOOTBALL AT ALL. AND IF LEGISLATURE DOES NOT GRANT A ONE TIME TRANSFER, HE'S RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME POSITION HE IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE HE STILL WILL NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
HE WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED IF THE TSSAA DOESN'T CHANGE. HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY FOOTBALL AT LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL NEXT YEAR OR WILL. WELL, HE COULD GO TO WILSON CENTRAL BECAUSE HE'D BE OUT A YEAR. IT'S. IN MY OPINION, THAT'S A VERY RISKY MOVE. AS A PARENT.
MY RECOMMENDATION, IF MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE PLAY THE FRESHMAN YEAR AT WILSON
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CENTRAL, IF TSSAA CHANGES WHICH INDICATE THERE'S SOME INDICATION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP, THEN THAT ONE TIME TRANSFER IS STILL AVAILABLE BECAUSE A STUDENT CAN PLAY AT SCHOOL A AS A FRESHMAN AND GO TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL AND BE ELIGIBLE THAT VERY NEXT YEAR. THAT WASN'T THE CASE IN THE PAST. IF WE. OH, I'M SORRY. IF WE CHANGE OUR POLICY TO NOT MATCH TSSAA POLICY. IS THERE ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE TTSSAAA CAN LOOK AT OUR POLICY, WHAT WE'VE CHANGED IT TO AND LOOK AT A SITUATION AND SAY. THAT WAS RECRUITING. HERE'S VIOLATION.HERE'S HERE'S A FINE. HERE'S VIOLATIONS FOR YOUR SCHOOL AND POSSIBLY EVEN TO THE POINT OF SUSPENDING A PROGRAM. NOT OKAY, SPORTS IS MY WEAK AREA. SO I'M GOING TO ASK, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT WE WOULD LET HIM PLAY AT LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL IS IF THE TSSAA THEMSELVES APPROVED IT. AND MR. MAYFIELD APPROVED IT. WELL IS. AND THIS IS WHY I ASKED WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING UP HERE IS IS WHAT IS A HARDSHIP AND WHAT IS AN INCONVENIENCE. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE HERE. AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, DO WE WANT TWSSAA AND WE CONTROLLING WHAT OUR DECISIONS ARE AND WHO WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW INTO OUR SCHOOLS WHEN IT'S THIS IS OUR SCHOOL BOARD. THIS IS WHO WE'RE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE HERE TO REPRESENT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ALONG WITH SUPPORTING THE HOMESCHOOL COMMUNITY LIKE WE ARE. AND WE'RE CREATING THEM AN AVENUE TO PLAY. IF WE WEREN'T LETTING THEM PLAY AT ALL, I WOULD HAVE MORE, PROBABLY MORE SYMPATHY. BUT THERE IS AN AVENUE FOR THEM TO TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS STILL. SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHERE I GUESS THAT'S THE ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT HARDSHIP VERSUS INCONVENIENCE. THE ISSUE IS FAIRNESS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IF YOU'RE A TRADITIONAL STUDENT, YOU CAN PLAY OUT OF ZONE, NO QUESTION ASKED. IF YOU'RE HOMESCHOOLED, YOU CAN'T. AND I'M JUST LOOKING TO FIND A WAY TO FIX THIS. I HAVE FOUND A WAY.
I BROUGHT IT TO YOU. LET'S VOTE. EITHER WE DO OR WE DON'T. I THINK THAT'S MORE DISCUSSION.
STILL. QUESTIONS ON THE TRANSFER RULE. WE ONLY ALLOW TRANSFERS IF THERE'S ROOM AT THAT SCHOOL, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND BASED ON NUMBERS, I DON'T BELIEVE LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL WAS AN OPEN ENROLLMENT SCHOOL. NOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE SCHOOL, BUT WE DIDN'T ALLOW REGULAR TRADITIONAL STUDENTS TO TRANSFER TO PLAY AT THAT SCHOOL. CORRECT. THERE WAS SOME BEST INTEREST BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY WERE ATHLETES OR THEY WEREN'T. I MEAN, IT ALL DEPENDS ON SITUATIONS. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE ALWAYS ALLOWED, IF YOU'RE A TEACHER AT L, S, D AND YOU LIVE OUT, WE ALLOW YOU TO BRING YOUR KID TO LEBANON HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA. THAT APPLIES FOR ALL WILSON COUNTY TEACHERS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO YOU. LET'S SAY YOU ARE. WE EVEN ALLOW. SUBSTITUTES. IF YOU WORK X NUMBER OF DAYS, YOU CAN TRANSFER YOUR KID INTO A SCHOOL ZONE. WE'VE ALLOWED THAT IN THE PAST TOO. BUT AS FAR AS BEING COMPLETELY OPEN, NO, IT WAS NOT OPEN ZONE. THAT GOES BACK TO THE NOVEMBER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU, BUT THIS YOUNG MAN IS ALSO A WRESTLER.
SO IF HE PRACTICES THREE DAYS FOOTBALL AND IS DENIED, HE ALSO ELIMINATED FROM WRESTLING NO TO SPORT BY SPORT. ALL RIGHT. AND KEEP IN MIND, THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. REEVES, WHO IS THE GUY THAT APPROVES THE HARDSHIPS OR DENIES THEM. BUT HE'S TOLD THEM FACE TO FACE THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE HAS SAID HE HE INTERPRETS, ACCORDING TO MR. NELMS, THE WORD TERRITORY TO MEAN DISTRICT AND SO THEY CAN PLAY ANYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT. IT'S NOT. THEY DON'T SEE TERRITORY AS BEING ZONE. HE JUST DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE GOING FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.
SO THAT'S UP TO MR. NELMS AND HIS FAMILY. THEY'VE TALKED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THE TAKE THE RISK THAT HE HAS CHANGED HIS MIND IN THE DAYS SINCE THEY'VE TALKED TO HIM, THAT'S THAT'S THEIR RISK. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, SO BEAR WITH ME. IF WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS LANGUAGE, DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT POLICY? BECAUSE DON'T WE HAVE A PROCESS NOW FOR HOW SOMEONE WOULD REQUEST? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PROCESS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT APPLIES IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO INTERSCHOLASTIC ATHLETICS ONLY AND HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED SOMEWHERE THOUGH, BECAUSE IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, OTHER THAN, I GUESS,
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THAT PARTICULAR POLICY, THAT RIGHT, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT LIVES IN THAT POLICY THAT'S BEFORE YOU. IT'S JUST THAT ONE. OKAY. I WAS READING AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO PULL UP, LIKE MISS FARROW WAS SAYING, THE TSSAA BYLAWS. AND AND LOOK AT THAT SECTION ON PAGE 20. IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, IT SAYS THERE ARE A, B AND C FOR HARDSHIPS. AND ONE OF THE SENTENCE SAYS. THE INDIVIDUAL STUDENT MUST MEET TSSAA DEFINITION OF ENROLL. OH NO, NOT THAT ONE. HANG ON. HARDSHIP APPLICATION MUST BE SUBMITTED BY THE SCHOOL AT WHICH THE ELIGIBILITY IS SOUGHT, AND THE BURDEN OF ESTABLISHING EACH OF THESE ELEMENTS TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR'S SATISFACTION IS UPON THAT SCHOOL. IS IT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET A, B, AND C? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S SAYING? THAT'S PRETTY INTENSE. AND AND THEN I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE OPEN PANDORA'S BOX, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW MANY OTHER STUDENTS COULD THIS BE IMPACTING? AND WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR OUR DISTRICT, FOR ADMINISTRATION, FOR ADS, FOR COACHES, FOR AND ON AND ON AND ON. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FAIRNESS. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME RIGHTS THAT TRADITIONAL STUDENTS HAVE, AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A TSS, DOUBLE. A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO'VE ALREADY TOLD MR. NELMS THAT HE HAS NO PROBLEM APPROVING THIS TO APPROVE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. MAYFIELD, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM. MR. WHITLOCK. MR. WHITLOCK, SORRY, I DO WANT TO HAVE INFORMATION. I WANT TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A KNEE JERK REACTION DECISION. I TRULY WANT TO KNOW IT WOULD OPEN UP THE POSSIBILITY OF IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE RECRUITING. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO. NOW. IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS FOOTBALL SEASON? NO IT'S NOT. AND AND I DON'T THINK RECRUITING IS WHAT'S TAKING PLACE HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN YOU CHANGE IT, IT DOES GOING TO OPEN IT UP. BECAUSE IF YOU ALLOW ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALLOW THEM ALL. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. IF IF I WAS DENIED OR TOLD BY AN AD AT A SCHOOL, YOU CAN'T DO IT. DO I HAVE DO I HAVE DAMAGES? I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THAT GOES BACK TO A LAWYER THING. NOW. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT RECRUITING. THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY ALL THOSE POSITIONS ARE SET ALREADY. THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THE TRANSFERS. THIS IS SIMPLY ABOUT FAIRNESS. HOW HOW FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, MR. GREEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. I DON'T THINK IT PUTS ANY LIABILITY ON US. IT PUTS THE LIABILITY REALLY ON THE TSSAA TO KEEP A FAIR AND. FAIR PROCESS AND NOT ACCIDENTALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYBODY. QUESTION IF OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL HAS TO TAKE THE LEADERSHIP OF MAKING THE HARDSHIP CORRECT REFERRAL. IF OUR SCHOOLS START MAKING HARDSHIP REFERRALS FOR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, FOR SPORTS, FOR HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS, AND WE'RE SENDING TRUANCY REPORTS ON KIDS WHO THEIR BUS HAS BEEN DOWN, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I JUST DO. YEAH. SO WE'RE JUST MAKING THE HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME OUT OF ZONE ABILITY THAT TRADITIONAL STUDENTS HAVE. THIS IS SIMPLY ABOUT FAIRNESS. IT ISN'T ABOUT LEGAL. IT ISN'T ABOUT CONSISTENCY. IT ISN'T ABOUT ANY OF THAT, BUT JUST FAIRNESS. IT'S JUST PLAIN NOT RIGHT THAT YOU HAVE TRADITIONAL STUDENTS CAN PLAY OUT OF ZONES, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FAIRNESS HERE THAT IF THE TSSAA SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH THEM, THAT OUR DISTRICT HAS THE ABILITY TO LET A HOME SCHOOL STUDENT PLAY OUT OF ZONE. THAT'S ALL THIS IS.I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. PADILLA SAID, CHANGING THE RULES OF THE GAME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME IS NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY. AND WE'RE TALKING FAIRNESS AND WE'RE TALKING EQUITABLE. BUT IF WE CHANGE THIS NOW, I I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT BECAUSE
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WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER ONES? SO IT BECOMES RETROACTIVE AND THEN THEY GO, OH YEAH, YEAH.ALL THE OTHER HOMESCHOOLED KIDS WHO, WHO ALREADY SUCKED IT UP, READ THE RULES, READ THE POLICY AND EXECUTED AND PLAYED FOR THEIR TEAMS. IS THAT NOW GOING TO OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, THE DOOR? SO THEY WOULD NOT BE THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED PRACTICE THEIR PRACTICES. SO NICE TRY. BUT THIS IS JUST ABOUT FAIRNESS. THAT'S ALL. AND THIS IS ALSO DETERMINING WHETHER YOU YOU SEE A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT THE SAME AS A HOME SCHOOL STUDENT. OKAY, THEY'RE BOTH STUDENTS, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CLASSIFY THEM ON? AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. WE KEEP BRINGING UP FAIRNESS AND. BUT THERE IS A DISTINCTION. THERE ARE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. I'M SORRY. THERE IS THEY BOTH PAY TAXES TO SUPPORT THIS SCHOOL. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S BUSINESS OWNERS, THERE'S BUSINESS OWNERS THAT OWN BUSINESSES IN WILSON COUNTY THAT LIVE IN SMYRNA. CAN THEIR KIDS NOW COME TO THIS SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY LIVE? I MEAN, SO THIS, THIS IS THERE'S LAYERS UPON LAYERS OF THIS THING. AND THAT'S WHY I JUST SAY IF WE KEEP IT SIMPLE AND WE CREATE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF HOMESCHOOL AND A PUBLIC SCHOOL AND WE SELL HOMESCHOOL, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND YOU CAN OPERATE IN THIS SPACE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU TO OPERATE IN THAT ZONE. AND THIS IS WHAT PUBLIC SCHOOL, BECAUSE YOU GO TO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THIS IS WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR YOU. IT'S IT'S TO ME, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AND LIKE I SAID, I SYMPATHIZE, I LOVE, I LOVE THE TENNESSEE HEAT. I LOVE, I LIKE SUPPORTING OUR HOMESCHOOL KIDS. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, I WANTED TO PUSH FOR MORE HOMESCHOOL INCLUSION INTO OUR INTO OUR SCHOOLS. BUT AFTER SITTING WITH MR. LUTTRELL AND LOOKING AT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FINE REQUIREMENTS AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR ENTIRE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST ONE STROKE FOR ONE STUDENT. AND THAT KID GETS TO PRACTICE.
THERE'S SO MANY LAYERS AND SO MANY ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON OUR SCHOOL STAFF FROM FROM SCHOOL LEVEL TO ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL TO TRACK THIS, TO FOLLOW THIS, TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE STUFF ON YOUR DESK FOR MORE, YOU KNOW, FOR HARDSHIP STUFF, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A HARDSHIP? SO WE CAN KEEP SAYING IT'S UNFAIR ALL WE WANT. IT'S NOT UNFAIR. IT'S JUST HOW YOU VIEW BOTH, YOU KNOW, BOTH CATEGORIES. I'M NOT VIEWING THEM ON UNFAIR ON EITHER ONE. I JUST I SEE THEM AS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. THAT'S IT. AND I'LL POINT OUT TO THE THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO USE THE LET'S NOT DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR THING THAT I TRIED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING TO GET THIS DONE EARLIER, JUST AS SCHOOL WAS STARTING, BUT NO ONE WANTED TO DO THAT. THEY WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL TONIGHT AND NOW TO HEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF SCHOOL YEAR. THAT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR ALSO. SO LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND VOTE. I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S STILL THE MIDDLE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PRACTICING ALL SUMMER. MR. WHITLOCK, I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THE HARDSHIP CONDITIONS, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD PASS THE A, B AND C THAT THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO NOW. BUT AGAIN, THEY, YOU KNOW, DUE PROCESS, THEY CAN JUST REFER ME TO PAST DECISIONS. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOT THEY THEY DON'T CONSIDER THIS TO BE AN UNFORESEEABLE AND UNAVOIDABLE CONDITION. THEY, THEY, THEY RESERVE THAT FOR A PARENT INCARCERATED OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, A PARENT DEPLOYED OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, PARENT ALL OF A SUDDEN LOST A JOB AND THEY RELOCATE AND, YOU KNOW, SHACKED UP WITH, WITH FAMILY, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE LIFE CHANGING LIFE CHANGES FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY RESERVED AS UNAVOIDABLE, UNFORESEEABLE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR HARDSHIP. THANK YOU. IT ISN'T FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT WHETHER THE HARDSHIP WILL BE GRANTED OR NOT. WE ARE SIMPLY SAYING IF IT IS, WE COULD ALLOW THEM TO PLAY. SO LET'S NOT GET TANGLED UP INTO WHETHER WE THINK OR DON'T THINK. BUT IF IT ISN'T, THEN WE'RE NOT ALLOWING HIM TO PLAY. THAT IS CORRECT. SO EITHER WAY, HE MAY OR MAY NOT GET TO PLAY.
FOOTBALL IS NO WORSE OFF. IF THE HARDSHIP IS DENIED THAN HE IS RIGHT NOW, HE CAN'T PLAY.
AND I'M JUST I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE THE LANGUAGE ON THE TAA THEIR WEBSITE FOR IT SAYS PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL. THE TERRITORY OF THE SCHOOL IS THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND THE BUS ROUTES, BUS ROUTES OF THE AREAS SERVED BY THE SCHOOL. SO I THINK THIS TERRITORY AND ZONE THEN WOULD BE THE SAME WORD. IT'S NOT A IT'S THERE'S NO INTERPRETATION THERE BECAUSE IF THE BUSSES DON'T SERVE THAT AREA, THEN THAT IS THE TERRITORY. THAT IS THE ZONE. I MEAN, I'M THAT'S THE WAY I'M READING IT RIGHT OFF THE WEBSITE. THAT'S NOT REALLY GERMANE TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE IS BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE DISTRICT.
YEAH. THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO BECAUSE HE'S NOT IN THE ZONE. SO AGAIN, IT'S DOWN TO FAIRNESS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TRADITIONALLY IT WAS PRESENTED AS AMBIGUOUS IN TERMS OF THE TERRITORY. I'M JUST CLARIFYING THAT IT IS NOT AMBIGUOUS. IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY CLEAR ON THE WEBSITE. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTOR TOLD MR. NELMS. OKAY, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. I MEAN, LET'S QUIT. IT'S YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO VOTE FOR IT OR YOU'RE NOT. SO LET'S JUST DO IT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK THE PARENTS ANY QUESTIONS? AT THIS POINT? I WOULD SAY YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER RIGHT THERE. WHY DON'T WE. WELL, I, I, I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANY RULES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO ASK PARENTS QUESTIONS? YOU CAN ASK ME AND I'LL ASK THEM. MR. NELMS, ARE YOU OKAY ANSWERING QUESTIONS? YES. ALL RIGHT. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK HIM? I'LL ASK HIM IF YOU WANT. IF YOU DON'T, EITHER WAY, YOU CAN SIT THERE. THAT'S FINE. OR YOU CAN COME UP THERE EITHER. EITHER WAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR. SURE. AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. YES, MA'AM. SPEAKING TO US. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU WOULD SHARE WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS. IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T MIND A CONVERSATION. THAT'S OKAY TOO. BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF.COULD I TELL YOU WHY THERE WAS A CONVERSATION WITH HIM INSTEAD OF JUST. SO I DONE ALL THE EMAILING AND TALKING I COULD DO. YES, MR. WHITLOCK AND MR. GENTRY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY WITHIN RULES, BREAK NO RULES, CAUSE NO TROUBLES. AND SO KEENAN WAS WAS PRACTICING THIS SUMMER, ALL SPRING AND SUMMER TO PLAY EIGHTH GRADE FOOTBALL AT WINFRED BRYANT. HE HE STARTED SCHOOL AT SEVEN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ADOPTED TILL THEN. HE'S NOT BEEN HELD BACK FOR ATHLETICS OR ANYTHING. BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER PRACTICES OR RIGHT BEFORE THEY SAID HIS BIRTHDAY IS GOING TO FALL, HE'S EITHER GOING TO MISS EIGHTH GRADE FOOTBALL OR SENIOR FOOTBALL. YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE THE HARD RULE THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT. SO WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. SEND HIM TO LEBANON WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR PAPERWORK.
HE'S NOT PRACTICING, BUT HE IS THERE TRYING TO LEARN AND LISTEN AND PAY ATTENTION. AND MAY I INTERRUPT YOU REAL QUICK? MAY I INTERRUPT YOU REAL QUICK? IF YOU COULD JUST TELL ME WHAT TSSAA SAID? SO THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT ME TO THEIR OFFICE. I COULDN'T GET THEM. I DROVE UP THERE. I SAID, I GOTTA FIND OUT. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. THEY HAPPEN TO LET ME IN. IT HAPPENED TO BE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. OKAY? AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, LOOK, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET HIM. WE LIVE ON THE LINE. HE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. ALL WE NEED IS SOMETHING FROM THE SCHOOL SENT TO OUR OFFICE REQUESTING THAT HE BE GIVEN PERMISSION TO DO THAT. AND I SAID, HOW LONG BACK JOSEPH? HE SAID, USUALLY WITHIN 24 HOURS HE'D BE ON THE FIELD. HE SAID, WE DON'T MIND AT ALL AS LONG AS THE SCHOOL. THEY HAVE TO INITIATE THAT. WE CANNOT. AND THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HE TOLD ME, STANDING IN THE HALLWAY OF THE TSSAA HEADQUARTERS, AND HE DIDN'T GIVE ANY EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE HARDSHIPS MIGHT BE. NOTHING. NOT ONE THING THEY SAID I EVEN HAD TO DO TO QUALIFY FOR IT. BUT OBVIOUSLY I FIGURED THERE WERE SOME CRITERIA. HAVE YOU REVIEWED THOSE? HAVE YOU REVIEWED THE TSSAA? OKAY. AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE BOTH WILLING TO TAKE A RISK IF THIS IS DENIED. WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY TAKING RISKS. WE'RE ALREADY TWO WHAT, TWO WEEKS INTO SCHOOL AND HE'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO PUT ON PADS SINCE THE DEAD PERIOD BECAUSE OF BEING TOLD YOU'RE TOO, TOO OLD NOW YOU'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE. AND EVERYBODY SHIFTING HIM AROUND. SO, I MEAN, HE'S ALREADY BEEN WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN RISK. WHY I WAS CALLING SAYING THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. AND YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S RISK. BUT HERE'S THE OTHER RISK. AS WE SAID, WE JUST SENT HIM OFF TO WILSON CENTRAL, WHICH SEEMS TO BE EVERYBODY'S ANSWER. HE PRACTICES THREE TIMES. IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED. HE IS NOW TIED TO THAT SCHOOL. IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT WE'RE ENACTING. THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, HE'S ALREADY TIED TO A SCHOOL. HE'S ALREADY TIED TO THE SCHOOL. SO THE ODDS OF REVERSING THAT LATER ON, I THINK, ARE GREATER THAN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH CURRENTLY. AND BUT I HAVE READ ALL THE THE POLICY, BUT I THINK ALL NIGHT LONG WHAT I'VE SEEN SITTING HERE IS THERE ARE A LOT OF POLICIES THAT ARE HARD CORE, BUT THAT COMMON SENSE SAYS, WELL, WE STOP AT THE CORNER WITH THE BUSSES, BUT IT'S POURING DOWN RAIN. SO WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE TO THE KID'S HOUSE, OR WE'VE GOT THIS BUDGET IN PLACE THAT SAYS WE CAN ONLY SPEND THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT TWO SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS THAT HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING. LET'S FIND THE MONEY. AND I THINK ALL OF LEBANON WOULD CHEER YOU ON AND SAY, DO IT, DO IT, DO IT. THAT NEEDS TO BE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WITH THIS. IT'S NOT JUST DISCRIMINATION, IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE. I MEAN, THAT HIS BROTHER PLAYED FOR THIS SCHOOL, THAT WE'VE NOT MOVED ADDRESSES. WE WEREN'T ASKED, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO BE? I DOUBT ANYBODY WOULD SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE YOUR ZONE? JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WENT, HEY, NOW YOU CAN'T. ALL THESE PEOPLE YOU'VE KNOWN ALL YOUR
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LIFE THAT YOU CAN RELY ON TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR SON, GO TO WHERE YOU KNOW NOBODY AND TRUST THEM WITH HIM. WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I HAVE EMPATHY FOR THAT. NEVER MOVED.MY KIDS WENT TO SIX DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS DISTRICT IS GROWING AND YES, MA'AM. AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO GO BASED ON CAPACITY. AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TOLD FROM TSSAA AND YOUR AWARENESS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED AND THE RISK THAT IS INVOLVED.
SAY IF IF PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS WERE NOT GRANTED THIS SPECIAL EXEMPTION, ONE TIME TRANSFER OUT OF ZONE, WE WOULDN'T WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SPECIAL PRIVILEGE. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, HEY, WE'RE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY. GIVE US SOMETHING.
AND EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING THERE'S, WELL, WHAT? WHAT'S THIS GOING TO OPEN UP? WELL, WHAT IS IT GOING TO OPEN UP? LOOK WHO'S HERE. THERE'S ONE HOMESCHOOL KID AND ONE SET OF PARENTS SAYING WE WANT TO DO. I DON'T THINK Y'ALL DEAL WITH I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THIS ONE AND THAT ONE, BUT IT'S ONE OFF ONE. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S 400 KIDS SAYING WE WANT TO MOVE SCHOOLS AND WE'RE HOMESCHOOLED. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE. YOU'RE READY TO VOTE.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING READY TO VOTE, MISS JERRY? OH, WAIT. WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON HIS AMENDMENT? YES. WE WERE VOTING TO ADD THE LANGUAGE TO THE POLICY. SORRY TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE POLICY TO ALLOW THE DIRECTOR. IT'S ON THE THING. AND THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO TO, TO BREAK THE RULES AND CHANGE THIS POLICY ON FIRST READING. SO IF THIS HAPPENS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOMETHING. WELL, IF IF YEAH, FOR A SECOND READING OR WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND. YES.
POLICY FOR OUR MOTION FAILED FOR NO'S. TWO YESES. MOVING ON TO ITEM 13.2 VAPE DETECTORS,
[13.2 Greg Hohman - Vape Detectors]
MR. HELLMAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH, I. THIS IS FROM MY OWN PERSONAL. MY CHILD, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE WAS A GREEN HILL HIGH SCHOOL AND I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE CALLS THIS YEAR, AND AS MUCH AS WE DO AS A DISTRICT TO REALLY INFORM PARENTS AND, AND I THINK WE DO A LOT HERE IN TERMS OF THE DRUG FREE WILCO AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. BUT THERE IS STILL A PROBLEM WITH VAPE AND HAVING OUR KIDS VAPE, SPECIFICALLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S NO CAMERAS, I.E. THE RESTROOMS AND OR THE LOCKER ROOMS. IN PARTICULAR, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON A, ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH A GROUP OUT OF ARIZONA THAT HAD INSTALLED DISTRICT WIDE VAPE DETECTION SYSTEM THAT WAS TIED TO THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WITHIN THE SCHOOL. SO THEY COULD, IF THEY HAD A POSITIVE REACTION OR POSITIVE PROBLEM IN THE BATHROOM, THE VAPE DETECTOR WENT OFF. THEN THE CAMERAS WOULD ROLL AND THEY'D GET LIKE A RING CAMERA TYPE THING WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE CAMERAS WOULD ROLL FOR 15, WHATEVER IT WAS, SECONDS OR 30S, WHATEVER THE MINUTE IS, WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER THE TIME CAPTURES, IT CAPTURES THAT TIME FRAME COMING OUT. YEAH, COMING OUT OF THE BATHROOM. SO THEY COULD HAVE MORE, A BETTER WAY OF CONFIRMING WHO IN FACT WAS IN THE RESTROOM WHEN THE WHEN THE DETECTOR WENT OFF. THE DETECTORS NOW ARE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED. THEY ALSO CAN DETERMINE BETWEEN HAIRSPRAY AND OR THC AND OR NICOTINE NOW. SO THEY'RE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED EQUIPMENT. BUT I DID WANT TO GET I WROTE A LETTER AND THEN I FIGURED THE LETTER WAS PRETTY LONG AND I WANTED TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT. AND I KNOW THE PRESENTATION I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LITTLE BIT LONG, BUT I CAN GET THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK. BUT I JUST WANTED THE PARENTS IN PARTICULAR REALLY KNOW REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE VAPES WITHIN THEM, NICOTINE, THE THC BRIDGE, THE THC VAPES. AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT IT IS THE SCHOOL. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW, TOO, THAT WE DO HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE. THERE ARE PROCEDURES IN PLACE IN TERMS OF CATEGORY THREE AND FIVE AND FOUR AND FIVE IN PARTICULAR. BUT I WANTED I[01:40:04]
REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE NICOTINE VAPE AND THE THC VAPE, BECAUSE THE IT'S IT'S REALLY NOT THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE INSIDE THESE DEVICES ARE REALLY NOT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT'S IN THEM. THE THC THAT'S INVOLVED IN THESE, THESE VAPE PENS IS, IS OFF THE CHARTS 100 TIMES MORE. BUT LET ME GET INTO IT. SO I SAID THE VAPE THAT FITS IN THE HOODIE SLEEVE OR AT 15 LOOKS HARMLESS. IT SMELLS LIKE COTTON CANDY. IT COMES IN COLORS AND SHAPES DESIGNED FOR KIDS. IT'S DOING THREE THINGS AT ONCE. IT REWIRES THE ADOLESCENT BRAIN. IT PRIMES THAT BRAIN FOR STRONGER SUBSTANCES, AND IT DELIVERS THC CONCENTRATIONS THAT DID NOT EXIST 20 YEARS AGO. I'M REALLY WRITING AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND AS A PARENT, AND THE EVIDENCE I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS ALSO INCLUDES OUR POLICIES AND SOME SPECIFIC THINGS I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT TO MAYBE BOLSTER WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT DISTRICT WIDE. THE NICOTINE ADDICTION STARTS FAST, THE DOSE IS SMALL, BUT THE REWIRING IS NOT. FIVE MILLIGRAMS PER DAY IS ENOUGH FOR A TEENAGER TO ESTABLISH NICOTINE ADDICTION. ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF A SINGLE VAPE POD, THE SEVEN TIMES A HIGHER THAT A NEVER A NEVER SMOKER WHO TRIES AN E-CIGARETTE BECOMES A CIGARETTE SMOKER WITHIN A YEAR, AND THE CHANGES TO THE PREFRONTAL CORTEX AND DOPAMINE PATHWAYS AND REGIONS THAT GOVERN ATTENTION, MOOD AND IMPULSE ARE IMPACTED. FROM NICOTINE TO VAPE. I KNOW THERE'S A THERE'S. AND THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS CORRELATION UP IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROTOCOLS AND GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. BUT A LOT OF THEM WERE SPECIFIC TO MAYBE NICOTINE AND MAYBE DON'T MAY MAYBE MAKE THE JUMP TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CORRELATING THE SINGLE VAPE AS THE POTENTIAL HAVING THIS BRIDGE FROM NICOTINE TO, TO MARIJUANA. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE, THE BRIDGE THERE. SO MULTIPLE LONG TERM STUDIES OF SOME TEENAGERS OVER THE YEARS HAVE SHOWN IT'S NOT COINCIDENCE THAT KIDS JUMP FROM NICOTINE TO THC. THEY'RE 20 TIMES MORE LIKELY OR 1,900% INCREASE IN ODDS THAT TEENS WHO VAPE NICOTINE ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE MARIJUANA COMPARED WITH TEENS WHO USE NO NICOTINE AT ALL. THERE ARE 40 TIMES OR 3,900% INCREASE IN ODDS FOR TEENS WHO BOTH SMOKE AND VAPE NICOTINE ARE 40 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ALSO USE MARIJUANA, AND IN 19 TIMES, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING. 1,800% INCREASE IN ODDS FOR EIGHTH GRADERS WHO REGULARLY VAPE NICOTINE ARE 19 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO USE MARIJUANA JUST ONE YEAR LATER THAN PEERS WHO DO NOT VAPE. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE THC CONCENTRATION THEN NOW, YOU KNOW, IN THC AND MARIJUANA, WHICH IS TYPICALLY SMOKED 20 YEARS OR SO AGO, IT WAS ABOUT 5 TO 10% IN THESE VAPE PENS THAT HAVE THC, IT'S 80 TO 95% DELIVERED IN THOSE CARTRIDGES. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE THC BEING DELIVERED TO THESE CHILD. EACH CHILD THAT VAPES IN ONE OF THOSE LITTLE PODS. THE HIGH POTENCY THC AND ADOLESCENT PSYCHOSIS, THEY'RE FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP A PSYCHOTIC DISORDER IF THEY'RE USING MARIJUANA, 11 TIMES GREATER RISK OF PSYCHOTIC DISORDER. AND ADOLESCENTS WHO USE HIGH POTENCY CANNABIS WEEKLY TWO AND A HALF TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA. TEENS WHO TRIED CANNABIS BY OR FOR TEENS WHO TRIED CANNABIS BY 18 AND 50% OF THE PEOPLE DIAGNOSED WITH CANNABIS INDUCED PSYCHOSIS. IN A FINNISH STUDY OF 18,000 WERE LATER DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA. THAT, TO ME, IS TROUBLING THAT NINE 9000 OF THOSE THOSE THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT STUDY ENDED UP WITH SOME LEVEL OF SCHIZOPHRENIA. BUT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN WILSON COUNTY IN TERMS OF HOW WE TREAT VAPE AND THAT WE DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE A CATEGORY THREE OFFENSE FOR VAPES THAT ARE NAMED SPECIFICALLY. THIS WOULD BE FOR TOBACCO, IN PARTICULAR, POSSESSION USE, CONSUMPTION, SALE OR TRANSFER TOBACCO NICOTINE PRODUCTS, INCLUDING E-CIGARETTES. YOU CAN GET, I GUESS, SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM SUSPENSION AND OR PARTICIPATION IN TOBACCO FREE PROGRAM OF COURT IN CATEGORY FOUR PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE PAIRED WITH EDUCATION. WE HAVE FIRST OFFENSE AND IT KIND OF GOES THROUGH WHAT WE DO THERE IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, GETTING INTO TOBACCO FREE PROGRAM. AND THEN IF IT'S THC, IT'S IT'S A CATEGORY FIVE. AND WE'VE SEEN WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT ALREADY AND, AND AUTOMATICALLY GET EXPULSION. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SOME OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE COULD STRENGTHEN WHAT WE HAVE, AND I DISCUSSED SOME OF THESE WITH MR. MAYFIELD. AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN TERMS OF HOW[01:45:03]
WE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE THINGS. BUT JUST SOME IDEAS I CAME UP WITH WAS THE MANDATORY PARENT CONFERENCE. AT THE FIRST OFFENSE. I FEEL LIKE THE DETECTION SYSTEMS OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT I'LL GET INTO NEXT, BUT IT'S THAT COUPLED WITH REALLY MAKING THE PARENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WHAT PATH THEIR CHILD IS ON WHEN THEY'RE TAKING THESE THINGS TO SCHOOL AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE COULD SIT DOWN WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, AT THE FIRST OFFENSE AND, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE, WE'RE WALKING WITH THEM IN THIS, IN THIS STEP OF HOPEFULLY GETTING THEM FREE OF THAT ADDICTION. BECAUSE THE POTENCY, LIKE I DESCRIBED EARLIER IS SO STRONG THAT THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING NO TO THAT ADDICTION. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. THERE'S AN OPTION IN WILSON WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AND WE GOT SOME SOME PRICING ON THESE THAT BECAUSE THE VAPE DEVICES THEMSELVES, IT'S HARD TO NECESSARILY TELL WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S NICOTINE OR THC. SOME OF THEM ARE OBVIOUS IN OUR SROS ARE PRETTY GOOD AT DETERMINING WHAT WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T.BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE IN THE GRAY AREA. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE DEVICES OUT THERE, TEST KITS, BASICALLY, THAT CAN TEST THOSE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO ASK I KNOW OUR STARS ARE HERE. DO YOU GUYS IF YOU FIND A VAPE, IS THERE IS THERE A WAY TO DETERMINE IF IT'S HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF IT'S MARIJUANA OR THC OR NOT? YOU HAVE TEST KITS.
OKAY, I JUST WANT TO KNOW. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, BUT WE DON'T TEST ALL OF THEM, I THINK. IS THAT THAT'S WHERE IS IT, I GUESS. HOW DO WE IF THEY IDENTIFY IT, IF THEY KNOW IT'S THC VAPE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE THE TEST KIT. THEY DON'T WASTE THE TEST KIT. AND SOMETIMES THE KIDS CONFESS WHAT IT IS. I MEAN, AND THEN OTHER TIMES, I THINK THERE'S CERTAIN WAYS TO IDENTIFY THAT THIS IS ONLY A NICOTINE VAPE AND NOT A THC VAPE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT. WE WOULD. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN. I TALKED TO TREY TIDWELL TODAY AND YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS IDENTIFICATION PIECE. THANK YOU. CURRENTLY, WILSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES SUPPLY TEST KITS, BUT THEY TRY IF THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH, THEY DON'T USE A TEST KIT ON IT NECESSARILY. AND JUST SO THE BOARD KNOWS THE COST OF THOSE TEST KITS, THEY COME IN A PACK OF TEN AND THERE'S ABOUT 2021, $22 FOR A PACK OF TEN. SO THEY RUN A LITTLE OVER $2 A TEST KIT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MOVING THE CURRICULUM EARLIER TO FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE AS THESE KIDS GO INTO JUNIOR HIGH, BECAUSE KIDS WHO START VAPING AT 13 AND 14 ARE THE ONES MOST LIKELY TO END UP ON THC. AND BY THE TIME THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL, SOMETIMES THAT EDUCATION MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE. NUMBER FOUR, I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING A PILOT LOOKING AT PILOT VAPE DETECTION SENSORS IN 2 TO 3 BUILDINGS. I PUT IN HERE SOME COST FOR YOU IN THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT NEXT. AND THEN I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT THE STATE BELIEVES IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. ALONG WITH THE CDC. THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THERE THAT WE CAN GET INTO. ADDITION SUPPORTED OFF RAMP TO REALLY GET OUR COUNSELORS ON BOARD WITH WHAT'S GOING ON ON STATE LEVEL WITH THE TEEN TEEN QUIT LINE. AND THIS IS QUITTING. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A, THERE'S A AND I'M SURE WE HAVE IT ALREADY. THE TOOLKIT THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE STATE FOR GETTING NICOTINE FREE SCHOOLS. SO I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN ALREADY IN THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE GIVEN, WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE OUR PARENTS OF THE, OF THE, THE HARMS OF THIS STUFF. SO I KNOW WE'RE LOCK STEP IN SOME OF THAT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE PERSONAL TOUCH AND TRYING TO GET THESE KIDS, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE ROAD THEY'RE ON IS GOING TO BE A TREACHEROUS ONE IN TERMS OF THEIR HEALTH AND IN TERMS OF THEIR OVERALL PRODUCTION IN SCHOOL. AND THEN WE CAN PUBLISH AN ANNUAL VAPE AND THC REPORT BY SCHOOL, BY GRADE, NICOTINE VERSUS THC BREAKDOWN, JUST SO WE CAN SEE IF WE IMPLEMENT THE VAPE DETECTORS, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY FINDING AND SEEING IF THAT INVESTMENT IN THOSE THINGS IS ACTUALLY WORTHWHILE. SO WHAT WOULD IT COST? I DID A LITTLE HOMEWORK. I ASKED MR. MAYFIELD, JUST IN GENERAL, HOW MUCH THESE SENSORS COST. THEY RUN ABOUT $1,600 PER SENSOR. I ADDED, IN MY OWN ESTIMATION OF 50% OF OF THE TOTAL COST FOR INSTALLATION AND ANY KIND OF REWIRING, JUST AS AN ESTIMATE AND ANOTHER 10% FOR MONITORING AND TRAINING. SO IF WE ACTUALLY WENT DISTRICT WIDE AND WE HAD 144 SENSORS, ACTUALLY, THIS IS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOLS ONLY, IT WOULD RUN ABOUT $230,000. THE INSTALLATION AND THE HARDWARE, ANOTHER 115,000. SO ALL IN WITH THE MONITORING AND EVERYTHING, I CAME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE ABOUT 380,000 TOTAL IF WE WENT ALL NINE SCHOOLS. BUT IF WE WENT TO A PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD IMPLEMENT IT ON A SMALLER BASIS, EVEN ONE SCHOOL OR TWO, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE A LOT LESS. WE COULD WE COULD CHECK THE EFFECTIVE, THE EFFECTIVENESS, SEE IF WE'RE
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GETTING THE SAME KIND OF NUMBERS. IN THAT CASE STUDY THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER FROM ARIZONA, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD CORRELATE SOME OF THAT DATA AND ACTUALLY BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THE PROS AND CONS WERE. BUT I ALSO VERY WELL AWARE OF OUR BUDGET SITUATION AND NOT WILLING JUST TO GO AND SPEND MONEY NEEDLESSLY. BUT I ALSO SEE THE NEED BECAUSE IT IS HAPPENING, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND PRETEND IT'S NOT HAPPENING, BECAUSE THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE HORRIFICALLY ADDICTED IN OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE GETTING AWAY WITH THE HABIT AND GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY INTO BATHROOMS, INTO LOCKER ROOMS, INTO THESE PLACES TO TO DO IT. WE GOT TO BREAK. WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO BREAK THEM FREE OF THAT HABIT. BUT ANYWAYS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF. SOME, SOME GRANTS AND THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. IT'S INTERESTING ON THE TENNESSEE PUBLIC SCHOOL SECURITY GRANT, WHICH I THOUGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD MATCH, IS ACTUALLY NOT A MATCH BECAUSE THE APPLICATION EXPLICITLY EXCLUDES VAPE DETECTION. IT CAN FUND THE SRO TIME AND STAFF TRAINING, AND THAT SUPPORTS THE PILOT. SO WHAT WE'LL FIND IS THAT THROUGH THESE GRANTS THAT I LISTED HERE, AND I'M SURE THERE'S THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT PROBABLY A LIST THAT WE COULD, WE COULD BUILD ON. YOU MAY END UP HAVING TO GET MULTIPLE GRANTS TO PAY FOR PIECES OF THIS TO REALLY KIND OF BRING IT TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THE NET FINANCIAL IMPACT IS ON OUR DISTRICT. BUT THE TDI, THERE'S A TDI, NICOTINE FREE FUTURES TOBACCO PREVENTION GRANT. IT'S UP TO $40,000 A YEAR. IT EXCLUDES THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF THE VAPE, BUT IT DETECTORS. BUT IT FUNDS WRAPAROUND CESSATION, CURRICULUM POLICY WORK AND EVALUATION. SO THERE IS SOME SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE. AND THEN I LISTED SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS HERE. SO IF WE WE DID SOME HOMEWORK FIRST TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT IS, IS THIS GRANT MONEY REALLY AVAILABLE? IS ARE THERE MORE. OBVIOUSLY, I ONLY LISTED A FEW IN HERE, BUT MAYBE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO THAT END TO SEE HOW WE COULD EFFECTIVELY GET ONE OF THESE THINGS FUNDED, BECAUSE I AM VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN HELPING THESE KIDS TRY AND BREAK THIS.BUT HERE'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO CONCLUDE WITH THIS LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE. THERE'S THERE'S A FEW THINGS I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE PARENTS TO DO THIS WEEK IS, NUMBER ONE, TALK TO YOUR CHILD AND TRY NOT TO LECTURE THEM. JUST GET, YOU KNOW, SEE IF YOU CAN GET A CONVERSATION GOING WITH YOUR CHILD AND ASK WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN SCHOOL. ASK THEIR FRIEND, ASK IF THEY SEE THEIR FRIENDS VAPING. ASK IF IF THEY'VE TRIED IT. SEE IF YOU CAN SHARE WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED OUT THERE. SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME REAL DATA FROM SOME OF THE PARENTS THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED. I MEAN, I GOT A NUMBER OF CALLS ABOUT FROM PEOPLE THAT SAID THEIR CHILDREN DO NOT WANT TO GO IN THE BATHROOMS AT IN PARTICULAR, MY OWN GREENVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY JUST THEY JUST STAY AWAY FROM IT. MY OWN SON CONFIRMED IT IN CERTAIN PLACES ON THE SCHOOL THAT JUST. IT'S JUST WHERE IT HAPPENS. SECONDARILY, KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE VAPES HAVE SWEET SMELLS. THEY VANISH QUICKLY.
THEY'RE USB DEVICES, COLOR FOR PODS. SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE LIKE HIGHLIGHTERS. THEY LOOK LIKE I MEAN, THEY TRY AND DISGUISE THEM IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS. SO TAKE A LOOK AROUND, LOOK AT YOUR, YOU KNOW, SEE IF YOU SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR CHILDREN. EMPTY CARTRIDGES IN THE TRASH, INCREASED THIRST, NOSEBLEEDS, IRRITABILITY, NEW SLEEP AND MOOD CHANGES. I MEAN, IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO TELL WITH A TEENAGER, BUT BUT IN PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT AND THEN USE THESE FREE RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THERE'S TRUTH INITIATIVES. THIS IS QUITTING DITCH VAPE. YOU CAN TEXT THAT TO 8709. IT'S FREE AND DESIGNED FOR TEENS. THE QUITLINE AT ONE 800 QUIT NOW CONNECTS FAMILIES TO TRAIN CESSATION COUNSELORS. I THINK ALL ABOUT IT IS IS JUST COMMUNICATIONS. AND IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN RIGHT NOW, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR, YOUR TEACHER, YOUR FAMILY DOCTOR, OR ANY BOARD MEMBER DIRECTLY. THERE'S NO SHAME AND NO JUDGMENT. WE JUST WANT TO HELP, I THINK, IN PARTICULAR, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, TO CLOSE IN OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD REALLY BE THE SAFEST PLACE IN A CHILD'S LIFE. AND THAT MISSION DOESN'T REALLY END AT THE CLASSROOM. IT FOLLOWS THE STUDENTS INTO THE BATHROOM STALLS AND PARKING LOTS AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE THEY GO, AND IN PARTICULAR INTO THESE GROUP CHATS WHERE THESE DEVICES GET BOUGHT AND SOLD, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY AND I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME WITH THE CELL PHONES AND THINGS. AND WE'VE BEEN DOING BETTER AS A DISTRICT IN THAT REGARD. BUT THAT IS A LOT HOW THESE KIDS ARE BUYING AND SELLING AND KNOW WHERE TO GO. OR SOMETIMES THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEY ONE CHILD WILL FIND A HOME FOR IT IN THE RESTROOM, AND THEN THEY TEXT THE OTHER KIDS ABOUT WHERE IT IS. SO THERE'S THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE. I THINK THIS LAST STATEMENT IS KIND OF SUMS IT UP.
WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERY RISK OUR CHILDREN FACE, BUT WE CAN REFUSE TO BE SILENT. WE CAN REFUSE TO BE UNINFORMED, AND WE CAN REFUSE TO LET THE FLAVORED PIECE OF PLASTIC QUIETLY STEAL OUR KIDS FUTURES. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE CHILD'S ENOUGH. BUT I UNDERSTAND, TOO, THAT THE
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FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF DOING THIS. AND IT ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD. IF YOU GO TO THE STATE WEBSITE ON THESE, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THEY THEY SAY THAT THESE DEVICES AND ALL. FULL DISCLOSURE, THEY SAY THAT THE DEVICES WON'T STOP A CHILD FROM VAPING. OBVIOUSLY. I MEAN, IF THEY WANT TO. SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU IMPLEMENT THEM OR NOT IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY STOP THEM JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DEVICE. SO MY COUNTER TO THAT IS, WELL, THAT HOW ELSE DO WE KNOW WHO'S DOING IT AND HOW MUCH HELP THEY NEED? AND SO BUT IN FULL DISCLOSURE, IF YOU GUYS GO AND FACT CHECK ANY OF THIS INFORMATION, YOU'LL FIND YOU'LL FIND THAT IN THERE. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU FOUND THAT. AND THAT'S MY KIND OF BE MY COUNTER TO THAT. SO I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT SMOKE SCREEN PROGRAM THAT I HAD SENT YOU. WE STARTED THAT. WE STARTED ROLL IT OUT LAST YEAR. IT GOT PULLED BACK. THEY MADE THOSE CHANGES. WE ARE GOING TO USE THAT IN GRADES SIX THROUGH EIGHT. THAT IS A ANTI VAPING, SMOKING POTENTIAL DRUG USE PROGRAM THAT WILL WILL GO OUT. ALSO MISSY HUNTER OUR COORDINATED SCHOOL HEALTH WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN FOUR WORKSHOPS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ED ABOUT REDUCING VAPING IN SCHOOLS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS IN SEPTEMBER. SO ONCE SHE GOES THROUGH THAT, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE HER COME BACK HERE BEFORE THE BOARD AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND IDEAS TO MOVE FORWARD. EXCELLENT. AND THEN I THINK MY ONLY REAL DIRECTION TO SEE IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME GRANT AND DETERMINE MAYBE PRESENT BACK TO THE BOARD A, MAYBE AN ACTION ITEM TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A PILOT PROGRAM. SHE IS ALSO GOING TO INVESTIGATE, EXPLORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN MR. MAYFIELD, YOU TOLD ME THAT THERE IS THAT THE SCHOOL IS ALREADY. OUR DISTRICT ALREADY HAS SOME OF THESE IN PLACE AND HAS IS FAMILIAR WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, IS FAMILIAR WITH HOW IT CAN BE INTEGRATED, AND SO WOULDN'T BE A HUGE LEAP FOR US, TECHNOLOGICALLY SPEAKING, TO INCLUDE THESE IN OUR BATHROOMS IF WE CHOSE TO DO IT AGAIN. I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY WHEN I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR KIDS ARE ARE SUFFERING WITH ADDICTION AS WELL. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE TIME. JUST, JUST ONE QUICK THING, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. IF A STUDENT CAUGHT VAPING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHARGE THEM OR THEIR PARENTS FOR THE TEST KIT? IS THAT IS THAT A IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? JUST I MEAN, IF YOU'RE CAUGHT VAPING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY BREAK A CHARGER ON A LAPTOP, THEY PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE CAUGHT VAPING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO JUST, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE CAUGHT WITH A VAPE, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO PAY.JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I LIKE THAT IDEA. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING A VAPE TO SCHOOL, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE
[8.1 Mike Jennings]
CONSEQUENCES SO YOU CAN PAY FOR THE TEST. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE AND PICK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE FAIR. WE WANT TO GET ALL OF THEM RIGHT, TEST ALL OF THEM. SO, ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A AT 805 WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. MR. JENNINGS IS HERE AT 805. WHAT'S THAT. NO. WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 805. OKAY.SO WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU. NOW I WANT TO END ON A GOOD OH, SORRY. I'VE BEEN ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT A MATTER THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL LITIGATION. SO I'M ASKING TONIGHT TO MEET WITH YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT NO VOTES WILL BE ASKED FOR, NONE WILL BE TAKEN. IT WILL BE A GENERAL DISCUSSION, AND WE'LL COME BACK OUT. BUT I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ACTION THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. 805 WILL YOUR ROCK AND ROLL, MR. JENNINGS BACK.
[9.1 Report from County Attorney]
MR. JENNINGS, SIR, WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. AND THEN ALSO IF YOU COULD JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO YOUR REPORT, IF YOU HAVE ONE AFTER THAT, SIR. THANK YOU. LET ME JUST SAY, AS PROMISED, BEFORE WE BROKE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, DID DISCUSS A MATTER WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND WITH THE DIRECTOR AND WITH MR. GREEN ABOUT A MATTER THAT COULD DEVELOP INTO PENDING LITIGATION FOR US. WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT IT COULD, AND IT'S AT A TIME WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE DISCUSSED AND IT NEEDED TO BE. OPTIONS NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT. NO VOTES WERE ASKED FOR. NONE WERE TAKEN. NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING TONIGHT.BUT WE DID COMPLY, IN MY OPINION, WITH SMITH COUNTY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION CASE. NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME. NO,
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I KIND OF TAKE THAT AS NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE. ALL RIGHT, I GUESS. IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS REPORT? MOTION TO ACCEPT. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. WE'RE READY TO VOTE, MISS CHERRY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU.MOTION WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, MR. HOFFMAN, DID YOU WANT TO SAY YOU SAID YOU WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE VAPES REAL QUICK? OH, YEAH. NO, JUST IF ANYBODY WAS INTERESTED, I HAVE BOTH THAT I CAN PDF THE PRESENTATION AND THE ACCOMPANYING LETTER TO ANYBODY THAT MIGHT WANT IT. DO YOU MIND JUST SHARING THAT WITH OUR YOU WANT US MAILING THAT OUT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS? YEAH THAT'S FINE. I TALKED TO MR. MAYFIELD ABOUT THAT. DO WE HAVE IT? SO IF YOU GUYS ARE WILLING AND WANT. YEAH. IT'S AVAILABLE. I JUST WANTED
[13.3 Joe Padilla - Naming MJHS Library in honor of Ester Hockett]
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.3. WE ARE MAKING A REQUEST TO NAME MOUNTAIN HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARY IN HONOR OF MISS ESTHER HOCKETT. MOTION TO APPROVE. I WILL SECOND. I WILL SECOND, JUST A REAL QUICK DISCUSSION. I'VE HEARD SO MUCH. AND SOMEBODY THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT MISS ESTHER HOCKETT. YOU KNOW, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW. SHE WORKED FOR WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS. SHE. SHE GRADUATED FROM WILSON COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1959. SHE GOT HER DEGREE FROM TSU IN 1963. READING UP AND RESEARCHING HER, I FOUND OUT SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STUDENTS. IT WAS STILL SEGREGATED WHEN SHE STARTED HERE IN WILSON COUNTY. SHE'S STILL GOING TO SEGREGATED SCHOOLS. AFTER SHE GRADUATED IN 1963, SHE WORKED FOR WILSON COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL UNTIL 1969, WHEN THAT SCHOOL CLOSED. AND THEN SHE STARTED WORKING FOR MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL. SO SHE WORKED FOR MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL FROM 1969 TO 2019.SHE'S NEVER MET A STRANGER. EVERYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, HAS BROUGHT UP HOW WHAT A WONDERFUL PERSON THAT SHE WAS. SHE TAUGHT CIVICS FIRST, AND THEN SHE WENT INTO THE LIBRARY. AND SO I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S PEOPLE UP HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE KNOWN HER.
I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. THAT'S FINE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO, PLEASE FEEL FREE. I JUST WILL SAY MISS HOCKETT WAS IN THE LIBRARY WHEN I WAS AT MOUNT JULIET HIGH SCHOOL, AND SHE WAS AN AMAZING WOMAN, SO SHE THIS IS A GREAT HONOR FOR HER. SAME. AND I'LL ECHO THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE MORE DESERVING OF THIS. AND JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW, I DID TALK TO, OF COURSE, THE DIRECTOR AND THE PRINCIPAL AT MOUNT GILEAD HIGH SCHOOL TO GET EVERYTHING CLEARED FIRST. SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING NEXT IS, IS FUNDING JUST TO GO MEET WITH MR. YOU KNOW, MEET AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL PROBABLY HOLD AN EVENT AND INVITE FAMILY AND FRIENDS FOR THAT. SO IT'S NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT IT IS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. SHE WAS IN THE LIBRARY WHEN YOU WERE HERE. THAT'S WHEN SHE MOVED. THAT'S WISE WISDOM.
WISDOM. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WISDOM. THE WISDOM. MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUS SIX ZERO.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY. NEW BUSINESS. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
[14.1 Next Board Meeting September 8, 2026]
SO WE GOT SOME COMMUNICATION FROM THE BOARD. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME BIRTHDAYS IF WE CAN WISH. MISS MELISSA LYNN AUGUST 13TH WAS HER BIRTHDAY. AND THEN MR. MAYFIELD AUGUST 20TH IS HIS BIRTHDAY. SO IF EVERYONE. HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANOTHER YEAR WISER.DON'T FORGET YOUR CAKE IN THE BACK. NEXT BOARD MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 8TH. WELL, LET'S BACK UP FOR A SECOND. WE ALSO HAVE THE SWEARING IN CEREMONY, WHICH WILL BE PUTTING INFORMATION OUT ON AUGUST 24TH AT 630 RIGHT HERE. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT GREAT. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT BOARD
[14.2 Fall District Meeting - September 24, 2026, 5-7 p.m. Jones Brummett Elementary School]
MEETING, SEPTEMBER 8TH. WE HAVE A FALL DISTRICT MEETING SEPTEMBER 24TH AT JONES BRUMMITT ELEMENTARY. THERE'S SOME INFORMATION AT YOUR DESK. PLEASE CONTACT MISS HEIDER AND LET HER KNOW IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER. IF YOU WANT TO COME. IT'S A GOOD EVENT. IF IT'S YOUR FIRST ONE, THAT'S GREAT. IF NOT, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO BE THERE. THAT'S A THAT'S AMAZING.[Additional Item]
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE'D BE REMISS, OF COURSE, TONIGHT. AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL GIFT. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE, OF COURSE, BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE. BUT TONIGHT IS MISS KIMBERLY MCGEE'S LAST BOARD MEETING. SO I THINK IF EVERYONE CAN AT LEAST GIVE HER A HAND THAT'S UP HERE. I KNOW WE THANK YOU. THESE ARE THESE CROWDS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE CROWDS. WHEN I FIRST MET MISS KIM MCGEE DURING COVID, ALL THESE BOARDS, THESE THESE SCARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FROM COVID. BUT THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO[02:05:02]
SAY IS THAT YOU ARE A YOU ARE ONE OF A KIND, MISS MCGEE. I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU. I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOUR DEMEANOR, FROM YOUR EMPATHY, FROM YOUR LOVE FOR FOR STUDENTS AND PASSION, AND THAT YOU'VE HELPED MENTOR ME JUST BY ME SITTING AND WATCHING HOW YOU HANDLE AND HOW YOU QUESTION AND HOW YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF AS A BOARD MEMBER. I THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE MADE ME, AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'VE MADE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AS ONE OF THE VETERAN BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB REPRESENTING YOUR ZONE. AND IT'S BITTERSWEET BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LET YOU GO. PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ON THIS BOARD WANTS TO LET YOU GO, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE TIMING AND WE'RE SO HAPPY AND WE SUPPORT YOU, AND WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO MOVING FORWARD. SO YOU'RE STILL HERE. YOU CAN STILL COME TO OUR MEETINGS. YOU CAN HELP US FIX OUR ZONING. I THINK, TRAVIS, WE CAN PUT HER ON SOME COMMITTEES. RIGHT. MR. MAYFIELD, MAYBE TO HELP US FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT. SO WE WE DO HAVE A CARD FOR YOU AS WELL IN HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS THIS PLAQUE RIGHT HERE, WHICH WITH OUR GREATEST APPRECIATION, WE HEREBY PRESENT MISS KIMBERLY MCGEE WITH RECOGNITION WITH THIS AWARD AND RECOGNITION FOR OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT, DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO WILKES COUNTY SCHOOLS. AUGUST 18TH, 2026. GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS MCGEE. IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE. BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THIS TO MISS. THANK YOU. I WILL SAY SOMETHING. LET ME GET A PICTURE. I'LL GET YOUR PICTURE HERE IN A MINUTE. YES, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER A WHILE AND NOT IN THIS RELATIONSHIP. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A A GREAT FAMILY. YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ME AND WHATEVER POSITION I WAS IN. AND LIKE MR. PADILLA SAID, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE BOARD. YOU WILL BE MISSED, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU HAVE EVER DONE FOR ME AND ALL YOU SUPPORTED ME. SO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAN I SAY YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING? YOU. SO I THOUGHT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT ON FIRST. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, MR. MCPEEK AND MR. DUNIGAN, AND THEN MR. PADILLA AND MR. MACK FOR BEING REELECTED. SO HERE I GO. AS I PREPARE TO CLOSE THIS CHAPTER OF MY SERVICE ON THE WILSON COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, I HAVE FOUND MYSELF REFLECTING ON WHAT AN INCREDIBLE PRIVILEGE IT HAS BEEN TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN I FIRST BEGAN THIS JOURNEY, I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, CHALLENGING CONVERSATIONS, AND MOMENTS WHERE WE WOULD ALL NOT AGREE. WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS ABOUT SHOWING UP, LISTENING, ASKING QUESTIONS, AND KEEPING OUR FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WE ARE HERE TO SERVE, ESPECIALLY OUR STUDENTS. OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ALONGSIDE DEDICATED EDUCATORS, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, DISTRICT LEADERSHIP, STAFF MEMBERS, PARENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CITY AND COUNTY LEADERS, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, ALL OF WHOM SHARE A COMMON GOAL PROVIDING THE BEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CHILDREN OF WILSON COUNTY. I LEAVE THIS ROLE WITH A HEART FULL OF GRATITUDE FOR THE TRUST PLACED IN ME BY THIS COMMUNITY, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE, AND FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS DEDICATED THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO SUPPORTING OUR SCHOOLS TO OUR STUDENTS. CONTINUE TO DREAM BIG, WORK HARD, AND KNOW THAT YOUR COMMUNITY BELIEVES IN YOU AND I BELIEVE IN YOU. TO OUR EDUCATORS AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THE COUNTLESS HOURS, SACRIFICES, AND CARE YOU POUR INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR STUDENTS EVERY DAY. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WILSON COUNTY. I NEED A MOMENT. JUST KNOW THAT I WILL BE CHEERING YOU ALL ON. I'LL BE CHEERING YOU ON FOR THE SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS, FOR OUR EDUCATORS AND OUR SCHOOLS. SO THANK YOU. SO I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY FINAL MOTIONS. AND SO WE GET A PICTURE IN FRONT. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE PICTURES, SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU LEAVE HERE. JOY, CAN YOU TAKE A PICTURE? CAN WE STAND UP FRONT HERE? DON'T GET I WANT EVERYBODY PLEASE. YES, EVERYBODY. MR. TRAVIS. TO. THAT'S SCRAPING THE BOTTOM. I THINK THEY'RE LIKE VAMPIRES. COME ON, DON'T SHOW UP IN THE PICTURES. COME ON, COME ON,[02:10:02]
COME ON. I DON'T LIKE. IT'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL. PICTURE. OH, SR. ROSE, COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, Y'ALL, EVERYBODY. MISS PAYNE, EVERYBODY. CAN I GET CLOSE? EVERYBODY COME ON. THIS IS IN THE WAY. SO CAN WE SCOOT EVERYBODY? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WANT THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER. OH, THAT'S IN THE WAY. YEAH. IT'S. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THIS. COME ON, COME ON. PAM. YES. SCRUNCH IT LIKE YOU LOVE EACH OTHER. HAVE A NICE DAY. CARRIES. YEAH. IT'S TRUE. YEAH. COME ON. WE'LL DO. THIS. CAMERA. OKAY. ON THREE. ONE.TWO. THREE. LOVE. YOU CAN COME. THREE. SCOOT INTO THE. YEP. NICE JOB. NO. YES. I JUST HAD TO THINK SO. I THINK SHE WAS TRYING TO. YEAH SHE WAS. I HAD TO MAKE. OH.
IT DEFINITELY WON'T BE THE SAME. AND IT'S IT'S BITTERSWEET. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. AND YES I WILL. I'M GOING TO GIVE MY AUTHORITY FOR YOU TO ADJOURN THE LAST MEETING, MA'AM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.