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WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. MONDAY, JUNE 8TH, 2020 226 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. THERE'S
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A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. NOBODY HAD SIGNED UP, SO TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM 3.1 DIRECTOR'S CONTRACT. BEFORE WE GET INTO MAKING A MOTION, I'M GOING TO LET TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MR. MAYFIELD TO. GO OVER HIS CONTRACT WITH THE BOARD. SIR. FLOOR IS YOURS. ALL RIGHT. IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST GO BY PAGE BY PAGE, ITEM BY ITEM. JUST TO CLARIFY. OR MAYBE EXPOUND ON A FEW ITEMS. TERM OF THE CONTRACT BEING 24 MONTHS. I AM GOOD WITH THAT. I JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I DID REACH OUT TO A MEMBER OF THE TOSS ORGANIZATION AND THEY SAID YES. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON NOWADAYS TO HAVE 24 MONTH CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER YOU HAVE GON THE 24 MONTH, I THINK I'VE MADE A COMMENT. I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVE MY WORTH WITHIN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT PART OF IT. THE DUTIES SPECIFIED IN THE TENNESSEE CODE ANNOTATED. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES IN THAT SECTION FROM MR. LUTTRELL'S CONTRACT IN ADDITION TO SECTION B, AS FAR AS MR. MR. MAYFIELD, WOULD YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, OR WOULD YOU WANT TO STOP AT EACH SECTION? AND IF A BOARD HAS A QUESTION, LET THEM ASK A QUESTION. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOU WANT TO DO IT SECTION BY SECTION. YEAH. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. OKAY.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT TERM OF THE CONTRACT. SO IF WE RENEW THIS THING AFTER 18 MONTHS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE RENEWING? IS IT THE EXACT SAME THING? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONTRACT WOULD THEN BE RENEGOTIATED. YES. OKAY. OKAY. CAN I ASK MR. PADILLA, WILL YOU GO OVER THE CONTRACT FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN GET MR. MAYFIELD'S INPUT ON HIS RESPONSE TO IT, BECAUSE HE'S OUR EMPLOYEE. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE EDUCATING THE BOARD ON THE CONTRACT. OKAY. YEAH. MR. MAYFIELD OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO. I WILL I WILL READ OVER THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AT THE END OF EACH TERM. I'LL LET MR. MAYFIELD SPEAK AND MAKE COMMENTS AND THEN LET THE BOARD ASK ANY QUESTIONS IF THAT'S OKAY I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I WAS DEBATING WHETHER IT WOULD COME SINCE IT'S HIS CONTRACT OR SO, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO WE'LL START WITH WE'RE GOING TO START WITH NUMBER ONE, THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT. THE BOARD, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ITS ACTION, IS FOUND IN THE MINUTES OF ITS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING HELD ON THE EIGHTH DAY OF JUNE 2026, HEREBY AGREES TO EMPLOY AND THE DIRECTOR HEREBY ACCEPTS EMPLOYMENT AS DIRECTOR OF THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR A PERIOD OF 24 MONTHS, COMMENCING ON THE FIRST DAY OF JULY 2026 AND ENDING ON THE 30TH DAY OF JUNE 2028, WITH AN OPTION TO REVIEW AT THE COMPLETION OF 18 MONTHS. PERFORMANCE SHALL BE EVALUATED BASED ON OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS IN RELATION TO THE GOALS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED IN THIS CONTRACT. NO SINGLE GOAL SHALL BE SOLELY DETERMINATIVE OF CONTRACT, EXTENSION OR NON-RENEWAL. AT THIS REVIEW, THE BOARD WILL DECIDE TO EXTEND THE DIRECTOR OR ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO EXPIRE UPON COMPLETION. OKAY, LET ME ASK A QUESTION. CAN WE GET SOMETHING IN HERE THAT CLARIFIES THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. MAYFIELD HAS, WHICH IS GOOD WITH ME, THAT REALLY WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO RENEW THIS THING AT 18 MONTHS. WE'RE GOING TO START THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WE WANT TO CHANGE IN HERE. THE WAY IT'S READING, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN RENEW THIS CONTRACT, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT CHANGES ARE CAN BE MADE AT THAT TIME. I GUESS IT'S WHAT THE DEFINITION BETWEEN RENEW AND RENEGOTIATE ARE. AND I'LL ASK MISS MISS OWENS IS, IS RENEW THE SAME OR SHOULD WE CHANGE TO RENEGOTIATE? USUALLY WHEN YOU DECIDE TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT, THERE'S USUALLY SOME CHANGES, LIKE SOME GOALS OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT USUALLY WE TALK ABOUT IN THE THE EVALUATION. BUT AT THAT TIME, WHATEVER THINGS THAT YOU WANT THAT INDIVIDUAL TO HIT OR WHATEVER, THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT. BUT IN THE TERM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SHOULD, SHOULD IT SAY IT, SAY IS RENEW AND RENEGOTIATE THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO TERMS. THAT'S WHAT SHOULD WE DO? WE NEED TO SPECIFY, RENEGOTIATE OR WHEN WE RENEW, WE'RE GOING TO RENEGOTIATE REGARDLESS THAT. I THINK THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S IT MAY BE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE, BUT WITH BOTH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT THE TERMS ARE AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANY OF THOSE TERMS. SO IT MAY BE UNDERSTOOD TO YOU AND IT MAY BE UNDERSTOOD TO OTHERS, BUT IT
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SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A LOT CLEARER TO PUT IN THERE THAT AT 18 MONTHS, WE'LL BEGIN THE RENEGOTIATION PROCESS, AND THAT WOULD LEAD US. WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT TOO, BECAUSE IN OPTION 14, SECTION 14 TALKS ABOUT OPTIONS TO RENEW THE CONTRACT. AND AND WE'LL GET TO THERE. BUT THIS IS WHEN WE CAN RENEW IT AT ANY TIME. AND WHEN WE IT DOESN'T SAY RENEGOTIATE. SO WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THAT TOO. SO YOU'RE JUST WANTING WHAT, WHAT WHERE ARE YOU WANTING THIS TO BE WORDED? I JUST AND WHEN IT SAYS THERE'S AN. AT THIS REVIEW, THE BOARD WILL DECIDE TO EXTEND THE DIRECTOR OR ALLOW THE CONTRACT TO EXPIRE. WHERE WHERE IS IT TALKING ABOUT? TO REVIEW IS THE WORD THE OPTION TO REVIEW AT THE COMPLETION OF 18 MONTHS? IS IS THAT INTENDED TO SAY RENEW? NO, IT'S A REVIEW. AND THEN AT THE REVIEW. OKAY. WE WILL DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND HIS CONTRACT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S FOUR YEARS, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS. AND BY ALL MEANS, IF THE LANGUAGE, IF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER WANTS THE LANGUAGE CHANGE, THAT'S FINE TOO. I JUST EXTEND AND RENEW TO ME ARE KIND OF THE I MEAN, I GUESS IT WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD WHEN WE WHEN WE EXTEND HIM, WE'RE NOT JUST EXTENDING IT ON THIS, ON THESE METRICS OR THIS CONTRACT, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NEW CONTRACT. TYPICALLY WHEN A CONTRACT IS EXTENDED, IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE VARIOUS SERVICE CONTRACTS. BUT THE COST, THE COST CHANGE, THE COST MAY CHANGE THINGS. ALL THOSE THINGS CHANGE INSIDE. SO WE'RE EXTENDING IT. BUT IT'S THIS THEY'RE STILL CHANGES ON THE INSIDE. SO I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT AGAINST THIS OR FOR THIS. MISS JAMIE, DID YOU WANT TO OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO TALK NOW OR LATER, BUT ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CONTRACT HAS CHANGED JUST A LITTLE BIT. I'D RATHER GO AHEAD AND SAY IT NOW SO I DON'T FORGET. JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT NOT HAVING AN ANNUAL EVALUATION, WAITING 18 MONTHS, THE POSSIBILITY OF EVALUATING AT 18 MONTHS TO LET SOMEBODY GO AT TWO YEARS. SO HAVING A DIRECTOR IN PLACE FOR SIX MONTHS THAT KNOWS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE REHIRED. AND ALSO IT IS PRETTY STANDARD FOR A CONTRACT OF FOUR YEARS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO FIND PEOPLE FOR THESE POSITIONS. SO FOR OVERALL STABILITY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I DON'T THINK THAT TWO YEARS IS A GOOD CONTRACT, ESPECIALLY JUST PUTTING SOMEBODY IN PLACE FOR 18 MONTHS WHEN EVERY CANDIDATE WE HAD SAID THE FIRST YEAR SHOULD REALLY BE GETTING TO KNOW AND STAFF AND BUILDING TRUST WITH STAFF, THAT'S REALLY NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ANYBODY TO DO MUCH. SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS. THANK YOU. OKAY. A SUGGESTION MIGHT BE TO ADD A SENTENCE AT THE VERY END OF SECTION ONE AND AND THE NEXT TO LAST SENTENCE SAYS AT THIS REVIEW, THE BOARD WILL DECIDE TO EXTEND THE DIRECTOR OR ALLOW THE CONTRACT TO EXPIRE UPON COMPLETION. IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO EXTEND THE DIRECTOR, THEN A NEW CONTRACT WILL BE NEGOTIATED. OKAY. WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. OKAY. CAN YOU IS SOMEBODY DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, MISS OWENS? OKAY. I THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS FINE.OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT IF. I'M SORRY. AND ONE THING TO SAY, HE'S GOING TO TYPE, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE TYPING THIS AS WE GO AND WE CAN WRITE IT DOWN. BUT BEFORE WE VOTE, WE'LL GET A CLEAN COPY AND GO OVER IT AGAIN TOO. BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL THE LANGUAGE IS IN THERE. BUT GO AHEAD, SIR. WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED, AND IT COULD BE I'M FLEXIBLE ON THIS, BUT IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO EXTEND THE DIRECTOR. A NEW CONTRACT WILL BE NEGOTIATED. WHAT ABOUT MAY BE NEGOTIATED? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOOD TO MOVE ON. OKAY. WELL, REAL QUICK, MR. MAYFIELD, WILL YOU ADDRESS MISS FARROW IN HER FOUR YEARS AND TWO YEARS? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO COMMENT ON THAT? ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS ABOUT THE EVALUATION. IT DOES SAY UNDER ITEM 16 THAT I WILL HAVE A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION ANNUALLY,
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NO LATER THAN THE 31ST DAY OF JANUARY. SO I WILL GET FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO AN ENTIRE MONTH. I MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT 18 MONTH WAS BASICALLY THE DECISION POINT TO DECIDE IF THE CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY EXTENDED OR RENEGOTIATED OR WHATEVER THE LANGUAGE TURNS OUT TO BE. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE SAID, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO HAVING A DIRECTOR FOR SIX MONTHS. WHO KNOWS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE REHIRED. I'LL STILL SHOW UP FOR WORK EVERY DAY, BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, BASED ON THIS CURRENT CONTRACT, IF THAT DECISION IS MADE AT 18 MONTHS, I AM STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK FOR WILSON COUNTY SCHOOLS. I MEAN. SO I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IN REGARDS TO THAT. BUT I I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE TWO YEAR CONTRACT. AND I WILL SAY IN IN REGARDS TO SOME OF MR. MACK'S COMMENTS, IN TWO YEARS, IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND OR OFFER OR RENEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH ME, IT WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR FOUR YEARS, FOUR YEARS, I MIGHT I MIGHT ASK FOR FOUR YEARS, I MIGHT ASK FOR THREE YEARS. MY. THE SALARY RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE ASKED. I'D PROBABLY ASK FOR A HIGHER RATE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD ASK FOR PERFORMANCE BONUSES, BUT THAT'S TWO YEARS AWAY IN MY. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ME SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, THAT IS THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE AND I'M FINE WITH GOING THE NEXT 18 MONTHS WORKING ON THE CURRENT JOB. AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN 18 MONTHS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION TWO DUTIES. THE DIRECTOR SHALL PERFORM DUTIES SPECIFIED IN TENNESSEE, CODE ANNOTATED, AS WELL AS THOSE LISTED IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR DIRECTORS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD, OR AS IT MAY BE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME DURING THE TERM OF THIS CONTRACT. SUCH JOB DESCRIPTION AS SO AMENDED, IS HEREBY INCORPORATED IN THIS CONTRACT BY REFERENCE. AS IF FULLY STATED HEREIN. ANY QUESTIONS ON LETTER A? THESE ARE PRETTY STANDARD PARTS OF THE CONTRACT. LETTER B THE DIRECTOR SHALL DEVOTE SUCH TIME AND ENERGIES AS ARE NECESSARY TO PERFORM THE DUTIES SPECIFIED IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION. THESE DUTIES WILL GENERALLY BE PERFORMED DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, BUT IS EXPRESSLY AGREED THAT THE DUTIES OF THIS POSITION WILL REQUIRE THE DIRECTOR TO WORK DURING TIMES OTHER THAN NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. ANY COMMENTS? C THE DIRECTOR SHALL RESIDE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF THIS CONTRACT. D THE DIRECTOR WILL RECOMMEND AND UPON APPROVAL BY THE BOARD, IMPLEMENT ATTENDANCE PROGRAMS TO KEEP ALL INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS AT OR ABOVE ATTENDANCE TARGETS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. E THE DIRECTOR SHALL IMPLEMENT AND EXECUTE THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL YEAR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN 20 2520 2030, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD EACH YEAR DATE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD AND DIRECTOR. ANY QUESTIONS ON E! YES. CAN I BACK UP TO D? OKAY. ARE WE HAPPY WITH HAVING ATTENDANCE? THAT IS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION LEVEL, OR SHOULD THAT BE A MINIMUM? I KNOW IT SAYS AT OR ABOVE, BUT IF WE'RE RUNNING ALONG AT ARE WE ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE OKAY IF YOU JUST MEET THE STATE DOE ATTENDANCE TARGETS. IF YOU GET ABOVE THAT, THAT'S GRAVY. BUT ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? OR DO WE WANT TO SET SOMETHING HIGHER THAN THE STATE DEPARTMENT? WE HAVE A MEASUREMENT ON THE NEXT PAGE, BUT I'LL SAY I DON'T REALLY LIKE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT BEING GRADED ON ABSENTEEISM, AND I DON'T LIKE THE DIRECTOR BEING GRADED ON IT BECAUSE HE CAN'T GO TO THE SCHOOL AND PICK THE OR GO TO THE HOME AND PICK THE KIDS UP AND BRING THEM HERE. SO I ACTUALLY HAD THAT NEXT PAGE MARKED AND HIGHLIGHTED TO ASK WHAT THE STATE MEASUREMENT WAS, SINCE WE'VE GOT A PERCENTAGE MARKED. OKAY, NOW THIS I GUESS I WOULD SHOOT THIS BACK. THIS WAS INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE CONTRACT YOU NEGOTIATED WITH MR. LUTTRELL. SO WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR YOU HAVING IT INCLUDED THERE? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WAS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED THEN, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE NOW. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MEASUREMENT IS NOW? THE MEASUREMENT IS I THINK IT'S IT'S I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. MR. MAYFIELD. I KNOW WE HAD LOOKED UP THE CHARTS. YEAH. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE ME A MINUTE. WELL, IF IT'S FINE. AND JUST SOMETHING TO, TO CONSIDER LIKE IT'S NOT A MAKE IT OR BREAK IT THING, BUT LIKE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WHEN I WAS READING THIS. I HAD IT MARKED ON THIS ONE. AND I ACTUALLY LIKED HOW IT WAS WORDED ON PAGE TWO. AND THEN I NOTICED IT WAS STILL ON PAGE THREE AS THE PERCENTAGE. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, WAS THAT MAYBE OVERLOOKED, THAT THERE'S AN ACTUAL PERCENTAGE THERE THAT WE LEFT? OR IS THAT LIKE, IS THERE A REASON THAT WE PUT THAT[00:15:01]
ACTUAL PERCENTAGE? WELL, WHICH PERCENTAGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SO LET ME TALK FIRST ABOUT SECTION D. THAT WAS IN THE. MR. LUTTRELL'S ORIGINAL CONTRACT, AND I AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS MORE OF A SHIFT TO THE CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING. I'M NOT SEEING ANY ATTENDANCE TARGETS ON THE TENNESSEE STATE REPORT CARD. SO I GUESS I'M OKAY WITH D BECAUSE THAT'S. IS D ADDRESSING CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM THOUGH. OR IS IT YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT JUST ATTENDANCE RATES. ARE THOSE THE SAME THINGS. BECAUSE CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM I BELIEVE I KNOW THEY BOTH HAVE TO DO WITH PEOPLE NOT BEING AT SCHOOL, STUDENTS NOT BEING AT SCHOOL. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY I WAS OKAY WITH THEM BEING LISTED IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT METRICS. YES. ONE IS OVERALL ATTENDANCE AND THEN ONE IS STRICTLY FOR ABSENTEEISM. OKAY, I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. WHILE THEY'RE ON TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, WHAT'S A WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A IMPLEMENTING AN ATTENDANCE PROGRAM? LIKE WHAT TO KEEP ALL INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS AT OR ABOVE THE ATTENDANCE TARGETS. SO WE HAVE A SERIES OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPLEMENTING THAT AREN'T LISTED HERE. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TARGET IS FROM THE STATE. RIGHT. SO THERE'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE NUMBER SHOULD BE A GOOD POINT. THE ATTENDANCE PROGRAMS, I THINK WOULD BE HOW WE HANDLE TRACKING THAT AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL AND HOW WE TRY TO OFFSET STUDENTS FROM EVER GETTING IN TO BE CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM. I THINK THAT ALSO PLAYS A PART LIKE HOW MANY PARENT NOTES WE ALLOW, AND THAT I THINK THAT'S A BOARD DECISION. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THEN HOW WHAT SORT WE ENCOURAGE SCHOOLS TO DO HAVE IN ATTENDANCE INCENTIVES. SO I, I KNOW THAT'S ONE WAY THAT PARTICULARLY MOUNT JULIET MIDDLE SCHOOL DECREASED THEIR CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM. BUT I, I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER, BECAUSE IN ALL HONESTY, I DIDN'T FOCUS A WHOLE LOT ON THAT BECAUSE WE WENT INTO THE F SECTION AND CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM IS THE MAIN ONE. AND THAT'S I REALLY THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED AT. I DIDN'T EVEN GO IN AND DIG FOR INFORMATION ON D AS FAR AS METRICS GO, BUT OUR CURRENT ATTENDANCE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 95% TYPICALLY, RIGHT? I MEAN, YEAH, I CAN LOOK THAT UP. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS US TO PUT LIKE OUR CURRENT RATES OF ATTENDANCE ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND TRY AND MAINTAIN THAT OR IF NOT, DO BETTER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE PROGRAMS. I STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING. I GUESS, I GUESS WHEN I THINK OF THE ATTENDANCE PROGRAMS, I'M THINKING OF THE ATTENDANCE INCENTIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE REST IS DEFINED IN POLICY AND STATE LAW AND DIRECTOR CAN'T DO THAT ON THEIR OWN. IT TAKES BOARD PARTICIPATION. I THINK WE'RE ACHIEVING OR TRYING TO MAINTAIN OR BETTER OUR CURRENT ATTENDANCE RATES. I THINK THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE'RE TRACKING THAT ALREADY. WE GET THAT REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HELPFUL.I MEAN, I REALIZE THAT THE DIRECTOR CAN'T GO TRACK DOWN OF KIDS THAT AREN'T IN SCHOOL, BUT, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE SCHOOLS HAVE GOT POSITIVE ATTENDANCE PRACTICES THAT INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, EARLY INTERVENTION, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, FAMILY ENGAGEMENT, REMOVING BARRIERS, POSITIVE RECOGNITION, DATA DRIVEN MONITORING, ADDRESSING THE SCHOOL CLIMATE. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THE DIRECTOR CAN ABSOLUTELY, THROUGH THE PRINCIPALS, DRIVE INTO THE SCHOOLS AND AND HELP ENCOURAGE POSITIVE ATTENDANCE ATTITUDES. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SOMEHOW ADDRESS THIS. I'LL SAY, WITH THE CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM, LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF, OF A WAY THAT YOU COULD ENSURE THAT THAT NUMBER STAYED LOWER IS MAKING SURE YOU IDENTIFY WHY.
AND IF A KID NEEDS A 504 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE IN PLACE, ADDRESSING THAT. SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A. INTERVENTION. ONE OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS WOULD BE OUR TIER MEETINGS THAT OUR SCHOOLS INITIATE. AND THEN IT FINALIZES UP HERE AT THE MTC WITH MISS CRANE AND HER ATTENDANCE DEPARTMENT, WHERE THEY HAVE THE INITIAL TRUANCY MEETINGS BEFORE
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THEY EVER ACTUALLY FILE ON THE COURT. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS. SO, MISS, MISS JAMIE, WERE YOU WANTING TO STRIKE D FROM THE CONTRACT OR. NO, I MEAN, I WAS OKAY WITH THE WORDING, BUT I WAS I HAD NOTES ON THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, SO I'M KIND OF FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN PAGES. AND I JUST SAW ATTENDANCE AND ATTENDANCE ON TWO DIFFERENT PAGES WITH A NUMBER BY ONE. AND I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS. BUT I DO SEE NOW IT SAYS CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM AND JUST ATTENDANCE ON ONE. I THINK I'M GOOD WITH IT. OKAY.THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I WAS MOVING ON. SO THAT WAS D. WELL DO YOU WANT DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO SAY AT OR INSTEAD OF AT OR ABOVE ATTENDANCE TARGETS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION JUST AT OR ABOVE CURRENT TARGETS WITHIN OUR WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL? LIKE ARE WE BECAUSE WE'RE TRACKING THAT AND WE HAVE OUR I THINK OUR SCHOOLS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING KIDS IN SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM SOMEWHERE AROUND 95%, RIGHT FROM THE LAST REPORT WE GOT. SO IF WE'RE AT OR ABOVE KIND OF OUR CURRENT OUR CURRENT STATUS, OUR CURRENT PROGRAM, I JUST DON'T KNOW, RELATING IT BACK TO THE STATE IF THAT'S HELPFUL OR NOT, BECAUSE I ALMOST WANT TO CONTINUE TO THE GOOD WORK WE'RE DOING NOW ON ATTENDANCE VERSUS GOING BACK. MAYBE THE STATE, IF THERE IS A STATE TARGET, COULDN'T FIND IT. BUT IF THERE IS ONE, IF THAT'S MUCH LOWER, THAT'S NOT REALLY ACCOMPLISHING THE GOAL OF MAINTAINING OUR HIGH ATTENDANCE. SAY THAT THAT'S MEASURABLE, THOUGH, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO AN EVALUATION, DID WE MEET THAT OR NOT? WHETHER I MEAN, JUST TO PUT A BAR IN THERE, SOMETHING TO MEASURE AGAINST. SO DO WE DO WE DO WE WANT TO PUT AN IMPROVEMENT BY A PERCENT? YOU KNOW, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO SHOW AN IMPROVEMENT BY A PERCENT OR TO PUT THE BAR AT 95% OR WHAT ARE WE? I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHAT YOU THINK WITHOUT BEING TOO MICRO. I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS BECAUSE I JUST. YES, THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY TO I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S AN ACHIEVABLE GOAL VERSUS IF WE JUST PICK A NUMBER OUT OF A HAT AND SAY, DO WE WANT TO IMPROVE BY 1%? YES. BUT IS THAT ACHIEVABLE? MAYBE. MAYBE NOT.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE IT ACHIEVABLE AS A BOARD? I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE AFTER A YEAR AND MR. MAYFIELD KIND OF GETS HIS FEET WET, HE MIGHT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO DO THAT. I THINK I LIKE THAT AS WELL. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS. THE ATTENDANCE TARGETS ARE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D EVEN HAVE THAT IN THERE. I GUESS LET'S MARK THIS NEEDS MORE WORK AND MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MOVE ON. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A LOW BAR. IF THAT'S THE LOW BAR, I WILL SAY I'VE. I'VE REACHED OUT TO TAMMY CRANE BY TEXT TO SEE WHERE I CAN FIND THOSE. SO IF YOU WANT TO LET ME SEE IF SHE RESPONDS.
WE COULD COME BACK TO THAT IN A BIT. OKAY, I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN. I THINK I'D LIKE TO SHOOT FOR SOMETHING ABOVE THE TARGETS SET BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OR WILSON COUNTY. I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. SO THIS PROBABLY NEEDS SOME WORK. I THINK THE WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC TO DEBATE ON BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THE STATE THAT WE COULD THAT WE ARE DOING BETTER. WE'LL MOVE. WE'LL MOVE, I NOTED. OKAY. E. THE DIRECTOR SHOULD IMPLEMENT THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOLS FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN 2025 2030, OUR 2025 TO 2030, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD EACH YEAR DATE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD AND DIRECTOR. OKAY F THE DIRECTOR SHALL ACHIEVE THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE GOALS. ACADEMICS, PERFORMANCE GOALS, THIRD GRADE ELA PROFICIENCY ABOVE THE STATE AVERAGE BY 5% ARE REACHING 70% BY 2030. T CAP.
OVERALL ELA PROFICIENCY. WE HAVE A 53.4% OR LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2027. B 54% ARE LEVEL FIVE GROWTH 2028. T CAP OVERALL MATH PROFICIENCY 53.8. OUR LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2027 54.2% ARE LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2028. T CAP OVERALL SCIENCE PROFICIENCY 62.5%. OUR LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2027 B 63% ARE LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2028. T CAP OVERALL SOCIAL STUDIES
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PROFICIENCY 71.5% ARE LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2027RBB 72% ARE LEVEL FIVE GROWTH IN 2028 GRADUATION RATE GREATER THAN 95%. COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS A 65.9% IN 2027. B 67.5% IN 2028. A C T DISTRICT AVERAGE A 20.9 AND 2027 21.1 AND 2028 CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM LESS THAN 15.1%. SO MY ONLY. SO ON THE GOING BACK TO THE TOP, THE THIRD GRADE ELA PROFICIENCY, I KNOW REACHING 70% BY 2030. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I KNOW THE STATE PUT THAT OUT THERE. RIGHT.THAT'S A GOAL FROM THE STATE. I DON'T KNOW THE STATES CAN ACHIEVE THAT. THE CURRENT ACROSS THE STATE IS 42%. RIGHT. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY EXCEEDING 5% OF OF WHAT THE STATE CURRENTLY IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE STATE'S GOING TO GET ITSELF TO 70%, OR IF THAT'S GOING TO SOMEHOW COME BACK TO HAUNT US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE, RIGHT? THEY SET THIS GOAL AND EVERYBODY'S TRACKING AT THESE IN THE 50S, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN THE STATE AVERAGE BY A LOT. BUT I JUST I ALMOST WANT TO MAYBE I LIKE THE TARGETS. MAYBE WE ADD IN HERE THE 2026 NUMBERS. SO WE BENCHMARK IT. AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE THE 2728 NUMBERS ARE GOING FROM. SO WE CAN KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROGRESSION. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN DO THE 5% OR REACHING 70% BY 2030. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT SINCE WE'RE SO FAR AHEAD OF THE STATE ALREADY, WE CAN BENCHMARK IT AGAINST THE LOW BAR AGAIN, I GUESS. I PULLED THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, BASICALLY VERBATIM. I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH DOCTOR CATHERINE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE WOULD BE AND PUT TO YOUR METRICS IN THERE. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEE IF I LIKE TO? I THINK I LIKE THE TWO, I JUST WANT TO SEE THE BENCHMARK FROM 26, YOU KNOW, OR WHEREVER WE ARE, WHATEVER THE CURRENT BENCHMARK. I CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION. YEAH. AND I THINK WE ADD THAT.
AND THEN I JUST, I, I THINK SINCE WE'RE ALREADY ACHIEVING THAT OVER WELL OVER 5% OF, OF THE STATE'S 42%, RIGHT? BECAUSE I MEAN, WE 48, WE'RE, WE'RE PERFORMING AT 53. SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WE CAN KEEP THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT ALREADY. I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED HISTORICAL INFORMATION ADDED TO A CONTRACT FOR THE FUTURE, THOUGH. THIS TO ME IS JUST A THIS IS THE THIS IS THE CONTRACT. I MEAN, WE COULD WE COULD PIN IT TO DEATH AND HAVE DATA, ALL THE DATA WE WANT IN THIS. BUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS AS A BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS AND BUILDING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND UPDATING THESE NUMBERS, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A, A, A MOVING TARGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO CHASE EVERY MONTH. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT ONCE A YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT MONTHLY, TRYING TO IMPROVE IT ALL THE TIME. I THINK THESE GOALS ARE, ARE, ARE BY THE STATE. AND I'M I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ABOVE MORE THAN 5% AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TO CRUSH THAT. IT'S JUST IN THE IN THE CONTRACT TO KEEP IT FAIR FOR MR. MAYFIELD. AND IN MY OPINION, WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE GOING TO THROW OUT THERE? AND WHERE ARE WE GETTING THAT DATA FROM TO MAKE THAT PERCENTAGE? BECAUSE IS IT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BETTER, WE'RE JUST GOING TO THROW ANOTHER 5% ON THERE BECAUSE TO YOU AND ME, 5% DON'T MEAN A LOT. BUT TO MOVE SOMETHING 5% IN EDUCATION TAKES TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK.
I MEAN, TO GO FROM FROM TO GO FROM, YOU KNOW, 53.5 TO LIKE IT IS, IT IS IT TAKES A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WORK TO, TO MOVE THAT HARD. WE'VE BEEN CRUSHING, WE'VE BEEN MAKING GREAT GAINS LOOKING FOR MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS FROM 2023 TO 2024, WE WENT FROM 54% TO 57%.
THAT'S THAT'S A 3% GRADE. AND WE, WE ARE DOING GREAT. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE NEXT YEAR. I THINK AS LONG AS WE ARE ABOVE THE STATE AVERAGE BY 5%, THAT THAT IS A GOOD BENCHMARK FOR THIS CONTRACT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE DIRECTOR, KNOWING THAT WE ARE WILSON COUNTY, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO ACCEPT AVERAGE, BUT THIS IS JUST THE BASELINE FOR THE CONTRACT. AND UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM, THEN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO USE WHAT THE BASELINE IS. IT'S KIND OF KIND OF LIKE IN THE MARINE CORPS, WE HAVE A PHYSICAL FITNESS TEST. THEY GIVE US THE BASELINE, WE PERFORM. THAT'S JUST THE MINIMUM. WE PERFORM MORE AND WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THOSE STANDARDS THROUGH CHECK MARKS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I THINK WE CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING. THAT'S A STANDARD MEASUREMENT. THAT'S OKAY. AND IT TAKES CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO TO MOVE A NUMBER LIKE THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THIRD GRADE RETENTION AND OUR TUTORING THAT WE DID, WE FOCUSED MOST OF THAT TUTORING ON OUR THIRD GRADE KIDDOS. AND SO IF WE INCREASE ONE OF THESE NUMBERS SIGNIFICANTLY FOR A GOAL, WHAT ARE WE AS A BOARD GOING TO DO TO HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD? I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANY OF THAT. I'M JUST SAYING ALL I'M SAYING IS THE PERFORMANCE METRIC THAT WE PUT IN HERE IS 5% ABOVE THE STATE. THE STATE'S
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CURRENTLY PERFORMING AT 42%. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO IF AND AND SO WE'RE ACHIEVING THAT AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE THE 0.6% ON T CAP OVERALL ELA PROFICIENCY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TARGET. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT 5%. SO I'M NOT SAYING IT'S 5% FOR EACH OF THESE. I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO HAVE WHAT I'M SAYING MISCONSTRUED. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT FIRST SENTENCE UP THERE WE'RE WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO DOWN IN ORDER TO STILL ACHIEVE THAT, THAT GOAL. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RELEVANCY OF IT IS WHEN WE'RE IF WE JUST PUT THIS KEY T CAP OVERALL, ELA PROFICIENCY IN THESE OTHER MATH PROFICIENCY NUMBERS IN HERE, THIS IS FINE. THAT'S ALREADY WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE PERFORMING BETTER THAN THE STATE. SO I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THE BENCHMARK IS THE LOW BAR THAT THE STATE'S PUT OUT THERE. WE'RE MUCH BETTER THAN THAT. SO WE CAN MOVE ON. I I'VE GOT A QUESTION. I NOTICED WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN HERE REGARDING A LEVEL SCHOOLS AND REWARD SCHOOLS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT AS A BOARD, WE WANT TO PUT IN HERE AS A GOAL? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN PROUD OF AND STRIVING FOR IS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF A LEVEL SCHOOLS AND REWARD SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED THIS. MR. MAYFIELD WELL, THAT'S WHY I PUT IN THE T CAP. OVERALL L A PROFICIENCY MEASURES FOR EACH BECAUSE EACH THAT IS WHAT DRIVES THOSE REWARD SCHOOL STATUS. AND A LEVEL SCHOOL STATUS IS HOW WE'RE DOING IN OVERALL ELA MATH SCIENCE, SOCIAL STUDIES, GRAD RATE COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS ACT DISTRICT AVERAGE, ALL OF THE CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM. SO THOSE METRICS ARE WHAT DETERMINES HOW MANY OF THOSE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE ON THOSE LISTS. SO THAT'S WHY I WENT KIND OF STEP BY STEP. OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, THAT SATISFIES ME. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO STILL UNDER NUMBER TWO DUTIES. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO. WE ARE UNDER F I NOW. WE'RE GOING TO OUR F ONE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO F TWO FISCAL OPERATION SAFETY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GOALS A BY JUNE 30TH 2027, THE DIRECTOR SHALL ACHIEVE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ONE DROPPED ROUTES. REDUCE TOTAL NUMBER. REDUCE TOTAL DROP BUS ROUTES DEFINED AS ANY AM OR PM ROUTE. NOT RUN OR RUN MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE BY AT LEAST 5% VERSUS THE FY 25, 2025 2026. BASELINE BASELINE FIGURES BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, WITH MONTHLY TRANSPORTATION REPORTS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD AND THE YEAR END VARIANCE REPORT DELIVERED BY JULY 31ST EACH YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS ON TRANSPORTATION? I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT? WELL, NOT MIXED FEELINGS. I DON'T CARE MUCH FOR HAVING THE 30 MINUTES LATE IN HERE JUST BECAUSE IF WE'RE COUNTING A DROPPED ROUTE AND 30 MINUTES LATE IS THE SAME THING.I DON'T LIKE THAT. I WOULD MUCH RATHER ROUTES RUN LATE THAN NOT RUN AT ALL. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T LIKE THOSE BEING COUNTED KIND OF AS THE SAME THING. I DON'T WANT THE THOUGHT PROCESS TO BE WELL, IT'S KIND OF THE THE SAME THING WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. SO IT'S OKAY IF THAT ONE DOESN'T RUN TODAY. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU WILL DO THAT, MR. MAYFIELD, BUT I WOULD PREFER IT JUST SAY DROPPED ROUTES. I THINK MAYBE THAT THIS WAS JUST DEFINING THE 30 MINUTES AS A DROPPED ROUTE TO ADD IT TO THAT COLLECTION OF NUMBERS TO, TO SHOW THAT. SO IF SOMEBODY WAS 30 MINUTES LATE, WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT THAT. BUT IF BUT IF IT WAS A DROPPED ROUTE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTED ONCE ALREADY. SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COUNT THE 30.
DOES THAT MAKE. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THAT. YEAH. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MAYBE. ARE YOU SAYING IF IT'S 30 MINUTES LATE, IT IS A DROPPED ROUTE? WHAT? I'M SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE COUNTED AS A DROPPED ROUTE BECAUSE NOBODY WAS THERE TO PICK IT UP. SO SOMEONE ELSE HAD TO GO PICK THEM UP AND BRING THEM IN. DOES I GUESS I DON'T THINK OF THAT AS A DROPPED ROUTE, BECAUSE I THINK OF THOSE KIDS AS GETTING HOME, AND I GUESS MY GOAL IS LESS CANCELED ROUTES. MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S THE WORDING I'M LOOKING FOR. I WOULD RATHER THIS SAY LESS CANCELED ROUTES. BECAUSE MY THING IS, I WANT TO SEE THE KIDS GET HOME. AND IF WE NEED TO GET CREATIVE TO DO IT, I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I WANT TO. SO HOW WOULD WE HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO WORD THIS? LET'S WORD THIS REAL QUICK. REDUCE TOTAL NUMBER OF CANCELED BUS ROUTES.
OKAY, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT. BUT THAT'S KIND OF. SO GET RID OF DROP BUS ROUTES ALTOGETHER AND JUST CANCELED BUS ROUTES OR JUST COMBINE IT. I MEAN, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I GET ARE ARE EITHER OR BOTH, REALLY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE RUNNING LATE AND PARENTS NEED TO PICK UP OR WAITING, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S A PROBLEM ON BOTH ENDS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF AGAIN, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO BE FURTHER
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DEFINED IN HERE OR WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT AS A AS SOMETHING THE TRANSPORTATION HANDBOOK OR, AND WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR TRANSPORT BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE OPTIMIZATION AND DEALING WITH DISCIPLINE AND MAYBE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.AGAIN, THAT AFFECT OUR BUS RIDERS AND OUR BUS DRIVERS. BUT THE PRIMARY COMPLAINT THAT I GET, AT LEAST FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE EITHER LATE. I HAD PARENTS JUST GAVE UP ON THEIR ROUTES AND JUST DECIDED TO TAKE THEIR KIDS. SO, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO YOUR POINT, JAMIE, I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE, THE CANCELED ROUTES IN THERE TO BE REDUCED. AND MAYBE WE CAN METRIC THAT AND SAY THE 5% ON BOTH DROPPED AND, AND CANCELED.
CANCELED. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING? AND SO WE THANK MR. MAYFIELD. YOUR THOUGHTS. WHAT ABOUT IF WE ADDED. OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BASICALLY DIFFERENTIATE THE DATA. THERE'S TWO SETS OF DATA DOWNED OR DROPPED ROUTES OR CANCELED ROUTES, WHATEVER WE CALL THEM, DELAYED ROUTES WHERE STUDENTS ARRIVING HOW MANY MINUTES AFTER THE BELL, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE A SECOND RUN ROUTE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS I RUN MY REGULAR ROUTE, I DROP KIDS OFF THERE ON TIME, THEN I GO RUN SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROUTE. WHO CALLED IN SICK. I PROBABLY WILL ONLY PICK UP HALF OF THOSE RIDERS, BECAUSE THE OTHER HALF GET A RIDE TO SCHOOL ON TIME.
BUT THIS GROUP HAS NO WAY TO GET THERE. THAT'S WHY WE GO AND RUN IT AND THEY GET THERE LATE.
SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF DATA AND A REDUCTION IN BOTH IS WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING RIGHT? I THINK I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DROPPED ROUTES AND THE DELAYED ROUTES. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS TO ME WHAT I THOUGHT WAS REDUCED TOTAL, I GUESS TO MAKE IT SIMPLER, REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DROP BUS ROUTES AND CANCELED BUS ROUTES BY 5%. LIKE THAT. LIKE AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO WE WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DROPPED ROUTES AND CANCELED ROUTES BY 5%. AND I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE. LATENESS BE LESS, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START FROM A PLACE OF BEING POSSIBLE FIRST. LIKE IF, IF SOME OF THE BUS ROUTES ARE LATE, FINE. AS LONG AS KIDS ARE GETTING TO AND FROM SCHOOL. AND I THINK MOST OF OUR PARENTS THINK THAT WAY TOO. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY WOULD RATHER IT BE ON TIME, BUT ESPECIALLY IF IF THE BUS GETS KIDS TO SCHOOL, I REALLY THINK THAT THEY SHOULD GET THEM HOME. I DON'T THINK THAT WE JUST GET KIDS TO SCHOOL AND THEN CANCEL A BUS ROUTE. THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME BECAUSE SOME PARENTS WILL GO WORK OUT OF TOWN WHEN A SCHOOL, WHEN THE BUS GETS KIDS TO SCHOOL, AND THEN THEY'RE KIND OF STRANDED THERE. SO, OKAY, SO IS ARE WE OKAY WITH THE 5% FOR DROP AND CANCELED ROUTES? PREVIOUS LANGUAGE. RIGHT? YES, DIRECTOR SHALL BE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF DROP AND CANCELED BUS ROUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR BY 5%. YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE. AND THAT THE BASELINE FIGURES WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. YOU KNOW. YEAH, WE CAN ADD THAT IN.
YES. SO WE AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE BENCHMARKING. YES. DID YOU KNOW 5% IS MR. TRAVIS.
YEAH. OKAY. YES. I JUST GOT A I'M WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. JENNINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF. OKAY. I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT AT THIS POINT IN THIS REVIEW.
I'M STARTING TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE MICROMANAGING AND I DON'T WANT TO FEEL THAT WAY. WE'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO THE DAY TO DAY OF WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING. AND I GET WE WANT TO SEE RESULTS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT SO MANY METRICS IN A CONTRACT THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WHAT THE GOAL IS. AND IT TO ME, AND I COULD BE WRONG. IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE ARE GETTING TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS. UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT BEING MICROMANAGED, BUT GOALS NEED TO BE SPECIFIC AND MEASURABLE. AND SO THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT REQUIRES SPECIFICITY. AND I THINK THE MICROMANAGEMENT COMES IN ONCE WE CUT MR. MAYFIELD LOOSE WITH THIS CONTRACT, HE'S FREE TO EXECUTE IT AND MEET THOSE METRICS ANY WAY HE WANTS TO. BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WE NEED TO GIVE HIM THE GUIDANCE OF WHAT WE EXPECT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE CITIZENS OF WILSON COUNTY, WHAT WE EXPECT FOR THEIR KIDS. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB, IS TO COME UP WITH SPECIFIC AND MEASURABLE WAYS TO MEASURE HIS PERFORMANCE AND GOALS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT VERSUS THIS REVISED ONE, AND WE WENT FROM ONE SENTENCE ON A ABOUT THESE ROUTES TO MULTIPLE SENTENCES THAT REALLY KIND OF CONFUSED THAT WHOLE METRIC IN WHAT WE
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WERE SEEKING. SO I DON'T, I GET METRICS, I GET WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY. I GET THAT THEY HAVE TO BE MEASURABLE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO BE COMPLICATED OR UNATTAINABLE.AND I GUESS THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO SAY AT THIS POINT IN THIS PROCESS. I WOULD SAY THAT JUST IN TERMS OF THAT, THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU DON'T BENCHMARK IT AGAINST SOMETHING, THEN WHAT'S 5% MEAN? SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IS SOME KIND OF A BENCHMARK BECAUSE THEN HOW DO WE MEASURE THEM? I MEAN, ONE, IT SAYS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE DIRECTOR SHALL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BUS ROUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR BY 5%. SO IT DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO BENCHMARK AGAINST. IT'S JUST WHAT THE METRICS ARE LIKE, HOW WE LIKE THIS ONE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN THERE TO 30 MINUTES OR WHATEVER. WHAT CONSTITUTES A DELAYED OR CANCELED ROUTES? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WE MIGHT HAVE A AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, BUT THE PUBLIC PROBABLY DOESN'T. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THEM, TEN, TEN MINUTES MIGHT BE A DELAYED ROUTE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE SETTING THE METRIC ALREADY AT 30 MINUTES. BUT AGAIN, I GUESS IF WE'RE GOING BACK TO CANCELED AND OR DROPPED ROUTES, THEN I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION. AND THAT SIMPLIFIES THE POINT. A, I GUESS WE'RE THE IN BETWEEN WITH THE PUBLIC AND WE CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THIS MEANS. BUT THIS IS A LEGAL CONTRACT, NOT AN EXPLANATION TO THE PUBLIC. AND THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS TOO. AND I WILL SAY THAT GOING OVER THIS WITH ALL OF THESE METRICS IN THERE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, A LOT OF THESE METRICS ARE ALREADY MEASURED IN THERE. AND IT SAYS HE WILL EXECUTE AND IMPLEMENT THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS, THIS BUS THING, RIGHT? THIS TRANSPORTATION, IT DOESN'T MENTION IN HERE, BUT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE PD MENTIONED FOR BUS DRIVERS. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY YOU. AND WE'RE ALREADY CHARGING HIM TO DO THIS. SO IT'S, IT'S FINDING THAT BALANCE OF HOW IN DEPTH AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OUR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE CEO, THE LEFT AND RIGHT LATERAL LIMITS TO OPERATE IN, IN, IN WHAT DIRECTION TO GO IN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR PROCEDURES AND, HEY, WHAT IS A DROPPED ROUTE, YOU KNOW, BUT IS THAT THE RIGHT PLACE TO DEFINE IT IN A CONTRACT? I DON'T THINK SO. MAYBE THAT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION HANDBOOK. MAYBE IT'S IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT. MAYBE IT'S IN THE PARENT STUDENT HANDBOOK. THIS IS WHAT CONSTITUTES A DRAFT ROUTE SO THAT WHEN WE SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC, WE CAN SAY THIS IS WHAT A DROPPED ROUTE IS, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THEM TO HAVE TO PULL UP HIS CONTRACT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DEFINITION OF DROPPED CONTRACT IS, OR DROPPED ROUTE. SO WHERE DO WE PUT THESE IN THERE ANYHOW? WHY DON'T WE JUST GO BACK TO E AND SAY, THE DIRECTOR SHALL IMPLEMENT AND EXECUTE THE WILSON COUNTY FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AND BE DONE WITH IT. I MEAN, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF IF YOU'RE THINKING THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH, THEN. AND IF IT'S ALL SUMMED UP IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THEN WHY EVEN HAVE THIS IN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, I THINK I THINK WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE DRAFT CONTRACT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US. YES. AND SO THESE METRICS WERE IN HERE. YES. NO, NO. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S FINE. THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. SO IF THEY WANT TO BE IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE AS WELL. BUT THERE ARE SOME I THINK THERE ARE. AND I THINK MR. MAYFIELD WILL AGREE. THERE ARE SOME DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN HERE THAT WE AGREE TO THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE IN THE CONTRACT. BUT IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION ON WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO TAKE OUT AND WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO LEAVE IN. I'M YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT TAKING RUN MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE OUT OF THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TELLING PARENTS THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT.
AND IT'S OKAY IF THEY'RE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES LATE. THEY MAY GET THERE AT SOME POINT, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WE'RE MONITORING OR MEASURING OR HOLDING MR. MAYFIELD ACCOUNTABLE TO. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL TOPIC, AND IT HAS A LONG WAY TO GO TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF IF WE NEED TO DROP THE 30 MINUTES LATE JUST TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS, THEN MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE REALITY OF WHERE WE ARE. I, I DON'T KNOW. SO I HAVE A COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO. I FEEL LIKE INCLUDING THE DELAYED ROUTES AS FAR AS A REPORTING TOPIC WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. TECHNICALLY, WE HAVE NOT TRACKED THOSE. WE IF WE RAN IT 45 MINUTES LATE, WE COUNTED IT AS WE RAN THE BUS ROUTE, WHICH WE DID, AND WE NEED TO TRY IT REGARDLESS. IF IT HAS TO BE LATE, IT HAS TO BE LATE. BUT WE SHOULD TRY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CANCELED BUS ROUTES AND THE NUMBER OF DELAYED ROUTES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PROVIDING THAT METRIC TO YOU. WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO IS ASK THE PEOPLE THAT TRACK THAT, AND IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT ANYBODY IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. I TAKE THE LIST THAT I GET DAILY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND IT'S SENT TO ANOTHER PERSON HERE AT THE ATC WHO, WHO COMPILES ALL THAT INFORMATION.
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I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH TRACKING THAT DATA AND WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO REDUCE IT.BUT NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE TRACK HAS TO BE OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT CONTRACT. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY, IN AN EFFORT TO OPTIMIZE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR BUS ROUTES, WE WOULD LOOK FOR THE DIRECTOR TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DELAYED AND CANCELED ROUTES. SO HAVE HIM COME UP WITH THE OPTIMIZATION PLAN FOR HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND JUST, I THINK JUST, I THINK JUST PUTTING IF WE JUST PUT. YOU KNOW, DROP ROUTES, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING AND WHAT I'M SAYING, IF WE'RE JUST LIKE WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY, JUST SAY HE CAN ESTABLISH THAT PROGRAM AND REPORT BACK TO US, ESTABLISH THE GOAL MAYBE OF 5%, BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF 5% IS. BUT WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM. AND AND IF WE'RE WORKING ON IT, AT LEAST THEN WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC AS, HEY, WE LOOKED AT THE PLAN, WE'RE OPTIMIZING THE ROUTES AND, AND THE NET BENEFIT MAY BE LESS CANCELED ROUTES AND LESS DELAYED ROUTES BECAUSE WE IT MIGHT BE A HOLISTIC APPROACH HERE THAT WE'RE KIND OF MAYBE WE'RE, WE'RE DIALING IN TO GENERAL HERE, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO RAISE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY OF OUR PROGRAM. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED TO ME AS FAR AS LET'S PUT THIS IN THE CONTRACT, ARE THINGS THAT THAT I WANT TO DO IN ORDER TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THE TASK OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DOWN BUS ROUTES. NOW, I MEAN, WE COULD LIST THEM ALL IN THE CONTRACT OR NOT LIST THEM ALL IN THE CONTRACT. THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME. I'M SORRY TO. BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO DO THAT AM I GOING TO TRY TO REDUCE THOSE NUMBER? ABSOLUTELY.
AM I GOING TO REPORT IT TO THE BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS? ABSOLUTELY. YOU TELL ME HOW OFTEN YOU WANT THE REPORT. I'LL GET THE REPORTS TO YOU. WE USUALLY DO IT BY MONTH. LIKE I GET A MONTHLY LOG WHERE I CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT IT. I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU GUYS SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MONTHLY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT QUARTERLY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES. SO I LIKE WHAT YOU MENTIONED, GREG. THE DIRECTOR WILL DEVELOP A PLAN TO REDUCE DROPPED AND DOWN ROUTES. WHATEVER TERMINOLOGY YOU WANT TO USE. BUT THAT MR. MAYFIELD GENERAL STATEMENT LIKE THAT. AND THEN MR. MAYFIELD CAN BRING IT BACK TO US. AND OUR GOAL FOR HIM IS TO HAVE HIM PUT TOGETHER A PLAN. YES, TO REPORT BACK TO US. AND PART OF THAT CAN BE HOW YOU WANT TO REPORT THAT BACK, BY BRINGING DATA, BY BRINGING WHATEVER. GIVE HIM SOME ROOM FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY AND CREATIVITY. AND YES, YOU CAN CHANGE. YOU CAN CHANGE A COMPLETELY. MR. MAYFIELD, YOU WANT ME TO MAKE IT SAY. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. DIRECTOR. YEAH. WOULD WOULD SEEK TO DEVELOP AN OPTIMIZATION PLAN WITH THE STATED GOALS TO REDUCE OF REDUCING DROPPED IN CANCELED ROUTES, MAKING OUR OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT MORE EFFICIENT. I WOULD JUST STOP RIGHT THERE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. THE DIRECTOR WELL, I SHOULD SAY DEVELOP AN OPTIMIZATION PLAN WITH THE STATED GOAL OF REDUCING DROPPED IN CANCELED BUS ROUTES. THAT'S IT. IS THAT OKAY? DOES THAT MAKES OKAY? THEN YOU COULD REPORT BACK TO US OR WHATEVER HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S PART OF ALL OF THIS. SO THE REPORTING BACK TO US, UNLESS WE WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THAT, I WOULD POINT OUT IT'S NEITHER SPECIFIC NOR MEASURABLE, BUT JUST KIND OF DO GOOD. JUST THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. IT'S STILL MEASURABLE.
DEVELOP A PLAN. YES OR NO. DID THE PLAN REDUCE DROP RATES OR DROP ROUTES? YES OR NO? HOW MUCH? I MEAN, THAT'S I STILL FEEL LIKE I COULD EVALUATE LIKE KNOWING HOW OUR EVALUATIONS HAVE LOOKED IN THE PAST. LIKE I'M TRYING TO VIEW IT THROUGH THAT LENS WE CAN PUT WITHIN A TIME FRAME. SO WITHIN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, REPORT BACK TO US WITH, WITH THE PLAN. AND I THINK WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A CONTRACT. SO IS IT, IS IT OKAY TO, TO, TO HAVE IT AS BROAD LIKE THAT AND THEN COMMUNICATE? THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HIM AT A MONTHLY MEETING OR LIKE I SAID THIS, I'M JUST OPEN TO WHAT I SAY TO REMEMBER THIS CONTRACT IS AN ANNUAL EVALUATION. AND THEN ALSO REVIEWING THE CONTRACT WITHIN 18 MONTHS. SO THERE'S REALLY KIND OF A BUILT IN TIME FRAME. IT DOES. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO LOOK AT THOSE
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TWO THINGS. SO DO WE HAVE TO MENTION THAT THE TIME FRAME IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT REGARDLESS. AND THE OTHER THING IS, I MEAN, I KIND OF WRESTLED WITH THIS AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE EVALUATING HIM OVER SOMETHING THAT'S I'M NOT I KNOW THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH TRANSPORTATION BEING A PRIVILEGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT CONDITIONS ON IT, WHICH WE SHOULD IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST THE MONEY IN IT. BUT LETTING HIM HAVE THAT LEFT AND RIGHT LATERAL LIMIT TO COME BACK. AND I KNOW HE'S BEEN THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION, BUT GIVING HIM ULTIMATELY THE THE LARGER SET OF KEYS TO DRIVE THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE HE CAN GO BEFORE WE PUT, I THINK, THE 5% OR GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTRICATE IN OUR IN OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN PUT IT IN. NOT IN HIS CONTRACT. SO TALKING.OKAY, ANY MORE ON TRANSPORTATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A NUMBER OUR LETTER B. AND THIS GOES BACK, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTOR SHALL ACHIEVE AN UNMODIFIED CLEAN OPINION FROM THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR EACH FISCAL YEAR WITH ZERO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES AND ZERO SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES UNDER TENNESSEE COMPTROLLER OF THE TREASURY AUDIT STANDARDS, ANY MANAGEMENT LETTER COMMENTS SHALL BE REMEDIATED AND DOCUMENTED TO THE BOARD WITHIN 90 DAYS OF ISSUANCE. ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS? HOLD ON. THIS IS MAKE SURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN AUDIT OTHER THAN THE COMPTROLLER. NO, I THINK IT'S THE ANNUAL AUDIT. ISN'T THAT HOW WE DISCUSS THE ANNUAL AUDIT? MR. MAYFIELD. I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. THE COMPTROLLER OFFICE AUDITS OUR BUDGET YEARLY. BUT THIS IS INDEPENDENT, AUDITOR. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT'S THROWING ME.
WELL, THEY'RE TECHNICALLY ARE THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR BUT THEY ARE INDEPENDENT. THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE THAT DOES THE ANNUAL AUDIT. OKAY. DO WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THAT? I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS REDUNDANT. TO HAVE A CLEAN. I'M I'M WONDERING IF WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY OR A PROCESS ALREADY ABOUT AUDITS AND HOW THEY WORK AND NOTIFYING THE BOARD. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THAT MIGHT, I THINK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SPECIFIES THAT THEY'LL ACHIEVE AN UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S JUST BASICALLY I MEAN, THIS BASICALLY IS JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH OUR AUDIT, THAT EVERYTHING IN IT IS ABOVE BOARD AND CONTINUING THAT WAY. SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I READ THIS. SO I THINK IF THERE'S A METRIC, THAT'S THE METRIC IS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE COMPTROLLER'S AUDIT AND I. MR. SEBASTIAN COULD PROBABLY CHIME IN HERE, BUT I THINK THAT AT LEAST VERSUS THAT THE PREVIOUS WHERE IT SAID NO FINDINGS DURING THE ANNUAL AUDIT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I THINK WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE DESCRIPTION THAN WHAT THAT IS.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST, HEY, WE GOT A CLEAN BUDGET. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT REMEDIATED.
THERE'S NO FINANCIAL ISSUES. AND THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DIRECTOR. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRET THIS ONE. YEAH. I MEAN, AS FAR AS BEING MORE SPECIFIC LIKE THAT, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I MEAN, THE OBJECTIVE IS ALWAYS TO, TO RECEIVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, ESSENTIALLY A CLEAN AUDIT. I, I GUESS THAT DRILLS IT DOWN THAT WE KNOW WE'RE JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING FOR A CLEAN AUDIT, JUST LIKE WE RECEIVED THIS THIS PAST YEAR.
SO YEAH, THERE IS SO THERE IS WE DO HAVE A POLICY ON AUDITS. WE DO, BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HAVE THE GOAL OF HAVING A CLEAN AUDIT IN THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. AND SO WHAT IS OUR GOAL IF THERE ISN'T A CLEAN AUDIT JUST TO GET NOTIFICATION WITHIN 90 DAYS? YES. AND THEN HAVE A PLAN TO SUBMIT BACK JUST LIKE A POLICY SAYS, SUBMIT BACK TO THE COMPTROLLER. THAT'S ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S OUR GOAL. IF WE DON'T HIT THAT GOAL, THEN. SO IF IF THERE'S EVER A FINDING, THERE'S. THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE REQUIRES A MANAGEMENT CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN. SO ESSENTIALLY THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS WILL TYPE UP WHETHER THEY DO OR DO NOT CONCUR WITH THE FINDING. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL SUBMIT ALSO A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN ON HOW TO REMEDY THE DEFICIENCY. AND THE DEFICIENCIES CAN VARY FROM JUST A BEST PRACTICE DEFICIENCY TO LIKE WHAT THEY CALL A INTERNAL CONTROL DEFICIENCY. SO IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF FINDING BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF FINDINGS.
ALSO, SEBASTIAN, CAN BOARD ACTION EVER CAUSE A FINDING BOARD ACTION OR INACTION CAUSE A FINDING ON AN AUDIT? YES. SO THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE A MEASUREMENT ON A DIRECTOR'S
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CONTRACT. OKAY, LET ME SEE. THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT I CAN THINK OF, AND I KNOW THE ANSWER.OKAY. IT CAN. YEAH, YEAH. BUT IT WAS KIND OF A COMBINATION OF MY POINT IS, IF THE BOARD CAN DO IT, THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE A MEASUREMENT FOR A DIRECTOR. I AGREE, I AGREE. I GUESS I WAS MORE CURIOUS AS TO HOW THIS CAME ABOUT OR WHY THIS GOT PUT IN HERE. AND I'M THINKING THAT WE PROBABLY HAD THIS ALREADY COVERED UNDER POLICY. PROBABLY EVEN STATE STATUTE. YES. NO, IT ISN'T A POLICY. IT'S POLICY. 2.703 THE YEAH. THE BUDGET IS THE THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO AUDIT, I WOULD SAY REALLY THE AUDIT IS MORE A REFLECTION OF US. SO WE SHOULD JUST STRIKE ALL THE BE ENTIRELY ALL OF BE ENTIRELY YES. BECAUSE IT'S IT'S ON US. I DISAGREE, BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE I'M A VOTE OF ONE. I EXPECT THE DIRECTOR TO BRING US AN AUDIT THAT IS CLEAN. IF THE BOARD IS DOING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE IT TO BE UNCLEAN, THEN HE SHOULD LET US KNOW, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. WHY DO WE HAVE ANY OF THIS STUFF IN HERE? WHY DO WE HAVE T CAP OVERALL ELA PROFICIENCY NUMBERS IN THERE? WHY DON'T WE JUST TELL THEM LIKE WE DID THE BUS DRIVING AND THE BUDGET. DO A GOOD JOB, DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY SPECIFIC OR MEASURABLE TO YOU, NO JUDGMENT OR MEASUREMENTS. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OUT, TAKE IT OUT. BUT BUT I AGREE, I DISAGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAC. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THERE SHOULD BE SOME METRIC TO TELL US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RUNNING THE BUDGET, WE MIGHT APPROVE SOMETHING. IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A NET EFFECT OF SOMETHING NEGATIVE THAT WOULD CAUSE A FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE DECISION ON OUR PART, LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE SOME OF THAT. I HOPE WE VET THAT BEFORE WE MADE THE DECISION, AND MAYBE WE GAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WOULD HAVE WOULD AFFECT US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I MEAN, I GO BACK TO IT. I MEAN, I LIKE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, BUT SO WHAT I THINK WHAT ABOUT MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THE DIRECTOR SHALL. PRESENT A CLEAN BUDGET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE SAYS TO US. IF WE DO NOT STEWARD THE BUDGET CORRECTLY, WE CAN BE OUSTED.
AND THE WILSON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN OUSTED BEFORE US FOR NOT FOLLOWING, NOT HEEDING THAT ADVICE. SO IT IS NOT, BY LAW, THE DIRECTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY. AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET. I GUESS I'M PAYING THE MAN $200,000 A YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AUDIT COMES BACK CLEAN. THAT'S HOW I'M FULFILLING MY BOARD RESPONSIBILITY, IN ADDITION TO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S BALANCED AND THE MONEY IS WELL SPENT. IT'S A TEAM EFFORT, BUT I EXPECT THE DIRECTOR TO DO HIS PART. I EXPECT THE DIRECTOR TO DO HIS PART TO PROVIDE BUS SERVICE THAT IS ON TIME AND NOT CANCELED. I EXPECT THE DIRECTOR TO DO THE ACADEMIC THINGS. IT'S NOT WRONG TO PAY THE MAN $200,000 A YEAR AND EXPECT SOME THINGS AND PUT ON PAPER WHAT THEY ARE, RATHER THAN SAYING, JUST DO THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE POLICY, DO A GOOD JOB. DO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. I DON'T DISAGREE. I EXPECT THE DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAN LEAD TO THAT, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE HAS TO BE FOLLOWED WITH BOARD ACTION, BECAUSE IF WE VOTE AGAINST EVERY ONE OF HIS RECOMMENDATIONS, HE CANNOT BE SUCCESSFUL. WELL, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK WE REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT HIS FAULT THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CLEAN BUDGET, BUT IT'S A CONTRACT, AND WE WON'T BE THE SAME BOARD THAT EVALUATES HIM. ANOTHER BOARD WILL. SO THE CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE CLEAN IN TERMS OF WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO. MR. SEBASTIAN, IN TERMS OF INITIATING THE AUDIT, THAT'S SOMETHING YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES ANNUALLY. NOW, THE THE AUDITS ARE DONE YEARLY BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, AND THEY REACH OUT TO US TO START REQUESTING THE INFORMATION. ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WHAT WE CALL THE INTERIM PERIOD WITH THEM. SO THEY'RE DOING INTERIM TEST WORK, AND THEN THEY WAIT UNTIL OUR SCHEDULED TIME THIS YEAR. OUR AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 STARTS IN SEPTEMBER. AND SO ONCE THE PROCESS STARTS, THEY REACH OUT TO MY DEPARTMENT AND THEY GET ALL THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THEY REQUIRE TO COMPLETE THEIR AUDIT. AND THEN FROM THERE, JUST TAKE SOME ABOUT 2 TO 3 MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE ANNUAL AUDIT. AND THEN ONCE THEY COMPLETE THE AUDIT, THEY SEND US TO DRAFT TO REVIEW, REVIEW THE DRAFT STATEMENTS, AND PASS ALONG THE INFORMATION TO THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS IN CASE THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED ON OUR BEHALF, OR WHETHER THEY MESSED UP SOME FIGURES ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY SENT US.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE TYPICALLY FIND OUT IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF WHAT THEY CALL DISCUSSION ITEMS, OR IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT DEVELOP INTO FINDINGS. THAT'S WHEN WE FIND OUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A FINDING NOW. SO LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE WHAT
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YOU JUST SAID IS THAT THERE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING THE AUDIT, THAT INFORMATION IS PRESENTED TO THE DIRECTOR WHO THEN SITS DOWN WITH YOU AND GOES THROUGH IT, RIGHT, AND DETERMINES WHAT THE RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE. YES. AT THAT POINT. IS THE BOARD ENGAGED IN THAT? SO ACTUALLY IN THE IN I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE CORRECT LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE, BUT IN THE DRAFT LETTER, BECAUSE THE AUDIT IS NOT PUBLISHED YET, THEY HAVE A STATE STATUTE REFERENCE. UNDER THAT, THE INFORMATION MAY NOT BE DISSEMINATED UNTIL THE AUDIT IS COMPLETELY PUBLISHED. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A STATE STATUTE ON THERE. I CAN GO BACK AND RETRIEVE THAT FOR YOU AND SEND IT TO YOU IN AN EMAIL. BUT IT DOES SPECIFY THAT UNTIL THE AUDIT IS PUBLISHED, THE INFORMATION MAY NOT BE DISSEMINATED UNTIL YOU RECTIFY WHATEVER THE FINDING, WHATEVER THE ISSUES ARE, EVEN EVEN THE CLEAN AUDIT WE RECEIVED FOR THIS YEAR, WE COULDN'T I COULDN'T PRESENT THAT INFORMATION UNTIL IT WAS FINALLY APPROVED AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. SO THE 2025 AUDIT THAT WE RECEIVED, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CORRECT, BUT I COULDN'T GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION UNTIL THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE GAVE US A GREEN LIGHT TO TO PRESENT A CLEAN AUDIT TO YOU GUYS. SO IN BETWEEN US AND YOU THEN IS THE DIRECTOR WHO'S HELPING TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND. RIGHT? THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP THERE IN TERMS YOU'RE NOT WORKING IN A VACUUM, I GUESS, WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS OR TO ADDRESS COMMENTS? YES. SO THEY GIVE US LIKE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS OR IF THERE WAS EVER A FINDING DEVELOP, I WOULD PRESENT THAT TO DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS. WE WOULD SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT. THEY TYPICALLY GIVE US A CHANCE TO HAVE A, I'LL CALL IT A REBUTTAL TO SEE IF MAYBE THEY THEY MISINTERPRETED SOMETHING THAT WE PRESENTED IN THE FINANCIALS. AND THEN FROM THERE, IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT, WELL, THEY'LL THEY'LL ACCEPT THE REBUTTAL. BUT IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE CHANGE, IT, THEN WE COME UP WITH A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN AS FAR AS HOW TO HOW TO FIX THE DEFICIENCY MOVING FORWARD. BACK TO YOUR POINT, MR. MACK. IT IS A TEAM EFFORT. IT'S A GROUP EFFORT. I THINK THAT METRIC OF HAVING A CLEAN BUDGET, BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES, LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE THE ONE. HE CAN'T PRESENT THAT DATA TO US. WE CAN'T EVEN RESPOND TO THE AUDIT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S STILL PROTECTED INFORMATION UNTIL THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE SAYS IT'S PUBLIC. RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, THERE IS THIS THERE'S A NEGOTIATION GOING ON INTERNALLY THAT WE'RE NOT PART OF. MR. SEBASTIAN, CAN A BOARD CHAIR GO TO A REBUTTAL? I'M SORRY, CAN A BOARD CHAIR GO TO A REBUTTAL? YES, I HAVE TO ASK. IT'S NOT A COMMON PRACTICE. I CAN WHEN I EVEN WHEN I WAS AN AUDITOR MYSELF AND I ISSUED FINDINGS, I DON'T EVER REMEMBER ANY BOARD MEMBERS BEING PART OF THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. WHAT WHAT I'LL RECOMMEND FOR NOW IS WE LEAVE IT. MR. MAYFIELD, CAN YOU CAN YOU COMMENT ON THIS, PLEASE, ON THIS AUDIT PART BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A SECOND.INITIALLY. I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THE METRIC BEING HAVING IT IN THERE. I MEAN, AND HERE'S WHY BECAUSE AND I POSED THE QUESTION, WILL, HOW MANY OF THESE METRICS DO I HAVE TO HIT IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR POTENTIAL NEW CONTRACTOR CONTRACT EXTENSION? IT'S NOT SPELLED OUT. SO DO I WANT TO HAVE A CLEAN BUDGET? ABSOLUTELY. AM I GOING TO AM I GOING TO DO WHAT I CAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. SEBASTIAN, TO GIVE YOU ALL THE NEEDED INFORMATION AND PLANS OF CORRECTIVE ACTION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? ABSOLUTELY. YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. HOW MANY OF THESE MEASUREMENTS DO YOU HAVE TO HIT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REHIRE? THAT'S NOT IN THIS CONTRACT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I KEEP. IT'S SO IT IS A LINE GOT ADDED BASED ON A SUGGESTION, I GUESS I'M NOT EVEN THERE. SO IF WE GO BACK TO SECTION ONE, JUST WE CAN GO OVER REAL QUICK. SECTION ONE. YEAH. LAST TWO, IT SAYS PERFORMANCE SHALL BE EVALUATED BASED ON OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS IN RELATIONS TO GOALS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED IN THIS CONTRACT. NO SINGLE GOAL SHALL BE SOLELY DETERMINATIVE OF CONTRACT EXTENSION OR NON-RENEWAL. SO IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S SO NOT NO ONE SINGLE ENTITY IS GOING TO PREVENT THAT. IT'S THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE THAT ENGAGING. SO THAT COVERS ALL THOSE. IS MR. JENNINGS DOWN THERE, MR. JENNINGS? MR. JENNINGS, WHEN IT COMES TO A CONTRACT LIKE THIS, HOW MUCH DETAIL SHOULD WE HAVE? HOW HOW HOW MUCH IN THE WEEDS, I GUESS, SHOULD WE BE WHEN WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ONE OF THESE? I KNOW I ASKED YOU THAT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT TO WHAT YOU ASKED IT. OKAY. THIS IS WAY TOO DETAILED, WAY TOO DETAILED. THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE WORKING FROM IS THE SAME ONE WE'VE BEEN USING SINCE THE MID 90S. IT HAS WORKED
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GREAT. WE HAVE ONLY HAD TO DISMISS ONE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS AND THAT WAS FOR OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES. HAD NOTHING RELATED TO A SCHOOL PERFORMANCE. IT HAS. I WAS JUST LOOKING. I'M LOOKING AT BOTH OF MR. LUTTRELL'S CONTRACTS. I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM IS IN BETTER SHAPE NOW THAN IT'S EVER BEEN. AND THIS IS THE CONTRACT YOU WORKED UNDER. NOW, I RECOGNIZE I MAY UPSET SOME PEOPLE BY SAYING THAT, BUT YOU ASKED ME THE QUESTION I DID.THANK YOU. AND I, LIKE YOU, DID REVIEW MR. LUTTRELL'S TWO CONTRACTS, AND THIS ONE IS VASTLY DIFFERENT. AND WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION AS A DISTRICT. OUR ACHIEVEMENTS ARE AMAZING. I GUESS I'LL SAY ONE MORE THING AT THIS POINT. I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE THE TRICKLE EFFECT ON THESE METRICS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMEONE IN THE DISTRICT OFFICE OR SOMEONE IN A SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP GATHER THE DATA TO PULL THIS INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ASKING. SO I DON'T WANT TO UNINTENTIONALLY PLACE A BURDEN ON DISTRICT STAFF OR OUR SCHOOLS BY IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THESE METRICS. AND I'M NOT SAYING METRICS ARE BAD, THEY ARE GOOD, BUT WE HAVE A LOT IN HERE. AND SO I'M ALSO THINKING IT FROM A WIDE PERSPECTIVE. ADD TO THAT, EVERYBODY THAT WE INTERVIEWED SAID THE FIRST 12 MONTHS THEY WOULD SPEND WATCHING, ESTABLISHING TRUST WITH STAFF, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A GOOD SPOT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO JUMP TOO SOON AND CREATE CHANGE TOO SOON. AND I SEE AT LEAST THREE PROGRAMS HERE THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR HIM TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN THE FIRST 12 MONTHS, WITH EVALUATION HAPPENING AT 18 MONTHS. SO ALL THE REST OF THIS SHOULD HAVE LIKE BEEN WELL ON ITS WAY BY 18 MONTHS. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS SETS HIM UP FOR SUCCESS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP CHANGEOVER, IT AFFECTS, LIKE MISS MCGEE SAID, TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT.
ANYTIME THERE'S TURNOVER OF LEADERSHIP, THERE'S CHANGES IN THE ORGANIZATION TOO. IF I CAN ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE, I'LL TAKE THE TOO MUCH WORK ON STAFF ISSUE FIRST. I HAVE NO APOLOGIES NOR ANY APOLOGIES TO THE CITIZENS OF OF WILSON COUNTY FOR HAVING STAFF TRACK T CAP OVERALL ELA PROFICIENCY TO SEVERAL DECIMAL PLACES MULTIPLE TIMES A MONTH IF WE NEED TO.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR MATH OR SCIENCE OR SOCIAL STUDIES OR GRADUATION RATE, OR COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS OR ACT SCORES, I HAVE NO. THAT'S WHAT I'M. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE I'M HERE.
IF I'M NOT. IF THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE, LET ME KNOW. I KNOW REAL QUICK SO YOU CAN IN JUST A MINUTE. AS FAR. AND DITTO FOR BUSSES AND DITTO FOR THE, THE BUDGET. I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T WORK HERE ON A DAILY BASIS, RIGHT? I JUST, I GIVE GENERAL OVERSIGHT AND GUIDANCE AS A BOARD MEMBER. I EXPECT MR. SEBASTIAN TO HAVE THE BUDGET WELL IN HAND AS SUPERVISED BY HIS BOSS, MR. MAYFIELD. SO I MAKE NO APOLOGY FOR ANY WORK THAT THE DISTRICT STAFF MIGHT HAVE TO DO TO KEEP TRACK OF HOW WELL WE'RE DOING ON EDUCATING OUR KIDS. THE SECOND ISSUE WAS.
MADE ABOUT. WHAT WAS YOUR WHAT WAS THE SUMMARY OF YOUR COMMENTS? MISS FARRELL? I DON'T GUESS I'M GOING TO HEAR THAT. BUT GO AHEAD, MAKE YOUR COMMENT, MISS. NO, NO. MISS MCGEE. I WAS TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ABOVE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY ASKING STAFF. NOT NOT WHAT WE CURRENTLY ARE ASKING OF THEM. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON STAFF IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE IN DEPTH. AND WHILE I REALIZE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET SOME MORE IN DEPTH, THAT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I DON'T FEEL THAT I, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. SO WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I GET THAT WE OBTAIN THIS DATA NOW, BUT IF WE KEEP DRILLING DOWN AND DRILLING DOWN, HOW MUCH MORE BURDEN ARE WE
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WILLING TO PLACE ON THE FOLKS THAT ARE MAKING THIS DISTRICT GREAT? LET ME RETURN TO MISS FARROW'S COMMENT ABOUT I REMEMBERED WHAT IT WAS NOW, NO THANKS TO HER. SHE MENTIONED THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE SAID IT WOULD TAKE THEM A YEAR TO COME UP TO SPEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. THEIR FIRST YEAR WOULD BE SPENT FIGURING WHICH WAY WAS UP AND WHO IS WHO IN THE ZOO.THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT I VOTED AND SECONDED THE MOTION FOR TRAVIS MAYFIELD. HE'S HERE.
HE KNOWS THE POSITION. HE'S WATCHED MR. LUTTRELL DO IT. HE ALREADY KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT THIS DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. SO WE CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, NOT SPENDING A YEAR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY IS IS UP. SO I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM ASKING MR. MAYFIELD TO MAKE SOME VERY SPECIFIC AND AND MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN HIS FIRST YEAR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TOO, THAT SO PEOPLE SENT MR. MAYFIELD YOU KNOW, SOME OF US SENT HIM MEASURABLE, SOME OF US DIDN'T. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND WE WENT OVER EVERY SECTION AND MR. MAYFIELD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS THIS IS THIS IMPACTS MR. MAYFIELD AND IT IMPACTS ALL OF US BUT HIM DIRECTLY BECAUSE IT IS HIS CONTRACT. AND FOR FOR THIS CONTRACT, HE IS OKAY WITH THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED IN HIS CONTRACT. NOW, THE LEGAL ASPECT OF IT WE CAN GET INTO IF SOMETHING IS LEGAL TO BE IN THERE OR NOT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE EXECUTION OF THIS CONTRACT, I THINK MR. MAYFIELD IS SMART ENOUGH, MAN, TO KNOW THAT IF WE PUT THIS TRANSPORTATION THING AND IF WE PUT THIS AUDIT THING IN, IF WE PUT ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED, HE'S SMART ENOUGH. AND IT'S WHY WE HIRED HIM TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. AND HE'S CONFIDENT IN HIS ABILITIES AS A LEADER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE EXECUTED WITH THE STAFF THAT HE HAS. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMEMBER THAT TOO, THAT THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FORCING HIM. THIS ISN'T A CONTRACT WHERE WE'RE IT'S NOT A, IT'S A, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT. MR. MAYFIELD. THESE ITEMS I HAVE BEEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR OVER A WEEK NOW. I MEAN, I EVEN STARTED LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS STUFF BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONTRACT. BUT AFTER YOU VOTED FOR ME, I AM FINE WITH YOU HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE METRICS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HOLD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE METRICS. THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE. I AM GOING TO WORK TO TRY TO REDUCE THE DOWN BUS ROUTES BY 5%, WHETHER YOU WANT 5% IN THERE OR NOT. AND I'M GOING TO TRACK THE DATA BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THAT. SO AND I WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND HOW WELL IT'S GOING. AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO PIVOT, WE PIVOT. AND IF I DON'T HIT EVERY METRIC OR THE 19, OKAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T ALWAYS WE'RE NOBODY'S PERFECT IN THE SCHOOLS. WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING TO PRINCIPALS. WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL, I HAD THE SAME LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT I NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH, AND I MIGHT NOT HIT EVERY ONE OF THEM. AND THEN I DEVELOP A PLAN TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR WHENEVER I GOT THE DATA BACK. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THESE THINGS. MATTER OF FACT, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO. AND I REALIZE A LOT OF DIRECTORS WOULD SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO SPEND THE FIRST 12 MONTHS OBSERVING. I PROBABLY WOULD SAY THAT IF I WAS TRYING TO GO TO CHEATHAM COUNTY OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY SOMEWHERE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. I KNOW I HAVE I'VE ALREADY HAD IDEAS HOW TO HELP AND TRANSPORTATION, AND I'VE GOT IDEAS ON HEALTH CARE AND THE HEALTH INSURANCE ISSUE. AND I WANT TO CONTINUE THE ACADEMIC SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD, BOTH ACHIEVEMENT AND GROWTH. SO THAT IS WHY WHENEVER IT WAS MADE MENTION, LET'S PUT IT IN THERE. IT'S LIKE, IT'S NO PROBLEM FOR ME. I'M THE ONE THAT STARTED WRITING THOSE THINGS. I'M THE ONE THAT PICKED THOSE BENCHMARKS. NOW, ARE THEY GREATER THAN WHAT THEY WERE? YES. ARE THEY UNACHIEVABLE? NO. THAT'S JUST. AND THIS WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT IF I WASN'T OKAY WITH TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH EVERY ITEM ON THERE. AND AT THE END OF 18 MONTHS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE, WELL, HE DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH THESE EIGHT AND WE FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE THE MOST EIGHT IMPORTANT ONES, THAT'S FINE. BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 18 MONTHS IF I HIT THEM ALL OR IF I HIT NONE OF THEM, THE BOARD'S GOING TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO EXTEND THIS CONTRACT OR NOT OR RENEGOTIATE IT, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S A RENEGOTIATION. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND FOUR VOTES, AND IT'S GOING TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S AND NOT TO INTERRUPT, I THINK THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO AND IT WAS PROBABLY WRONG OF ME, BUT WANTED HIM TO GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT BECAUSE HE DID HELP BUILD THIS. AND IT WAS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT HE THAT IS IN HERE, HE PUT IN HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE DISCUSSED IT
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COLLABORATIVELY, BUT IT WAS NEVER AN ITEM WHERE IT WAS TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH ON HIM OR TRYING TO PUT. I THINK WE CAME TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE MEASURABLE GOALS. AND EACH ONE OF THESE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH TO SOME EXTENT TO. I MEAN, WE WERE HERE AT FOUR STILL ADDING LANGUAGE AND MAKE. TRYING TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT WAS CLEAR TO THE BOARD THAT THIS CONTRACT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH, AND EVERY MEASURABLE UNDER HERE IS FINE. AND KNOWING THAT NOT ONE MEASURABLE IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE REHIRE YOU OR NOT, BUT THE TOTALITY AND THE HOLISTIC APPROACH OF HOW YOU ACCOMPLISH ALL THESE TASKS HERE WITHIN THE TRUTH IS ANOTHER BOARD CAN COME ALONG AND DECIDE NOT TO REHIRE YOU BASED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND A CONTRACT. THIS NITTY GRITTY DOESN'T SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS, AND IT DOESN'T SET THE DISTRICT UP FOR SUCCESS IN THE LONG RUN. I'M NOT SPEAKING JUST FOR YOU, MR. MAYFIELD. I'M SPEAKING FOR THIS DISTRICT, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS CONTRACT SETS THE DISTRICT UP FOR SUCCESS. I GUESS MY QUESTION AND WE CAN CONTINUE GOING OVER THIS, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE YOU WANTING TO GO TO A MORE, I DON'T KNOW, WORD VAGUE CONTRACT LIKE MR. LUTTRELL'S, BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY MEASURABLES, YOU KNOW. I MEAN, IT DID, BUT THEY WEREN'T SPELLED OUT IN THIS CONTRACT. THEY WERE SPELLED OUT IN OTHER AREAS. IS THAT WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW, ARE LOOKING FOR? I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ALSO THINGS THAT WE CANNOT. WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? JUST THROW HIM OFF COURSE. IF A BOARD ACTION CERTAIN MEMBERS THAT DON'T LIKE MR. MAYFIELD CAN VOTE AGAINST HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AND CALLS HIS. EVALUATION TO TANK. AND THEN THAT BE THE REASON THAT WE CAN GET RID OF HIM, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR CONTRACT. I THINK HIS CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE THINGS THAT HE DOES ON HIS OWN MERIT, BRINGING US PROGRAMS, BRINGING US IDEAS, THINGS THAT ARE MEASURABLE THAT THE DIRECTOR DOES NOT, THINGS THAT ARE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP. AND YES, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, IMPLEMENTED, MEASURED. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONTRACTUAL THING BECAUSE HE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT STRATEGIC PLAN ON HIS OWN. IT TAKES OUR ACTION WITH HIM.DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. I THINK THERE'S YEAH, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENCE OF WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST MIDDLE GROUND TO, TO OPERATE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S I MEAN, I'M IN THE MIDDLE. YOU KNOW, I THINK WELL, JUST WHAT I JUST HEARD, MR. MAYFIELD SAID IS HE'S LIKE, GAME ON, LET'S GO. I MEAN, I THINK HE FROM WHAT I JUST UNDERSTOOD IS THESE THINGS HE DEVELOPED, THESE THINGS ARE ATTAINABLE. HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THEM IN THERE IF THEY WEREN'T. I THINK LET'S GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO GET IT DONE. I, I THINK IF AND LISTEN, I THINK THAT I THINK THE GREAT PART ABOUT IT IS THAT THAT LAST COUPLE OF SENTENCES IN THE FIRST TERM OF THE CONTRACT, NO SINGLE GOAL SHALL BE SOLELY DETERMINATIVE OF THE CONTRACT EXTENSION OR NON-RENEWAL. IT'S THE WEIGHT FOR EACH MEASURABLE MEN. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL. WHAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'LL BE DETERMINED BY OUR OUR ANNUAL REVIEW, WHETHER OR NOT BY THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK THAT WE CAN NOW. YES, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE UPDATED BASED ON THIS NEW CONTRACT. YES. SO WE REALLY NEED TO SEE THE EVALUATION BECAUSE WE GOT ON NUMBER ONE WHERE IT SAYS NO SINGLE GOAL. WHERE WAS IT, JOE? YES. SECTION NUMBER ONE TERM OF CONTRACT. NO SINGLE GOAL SHALL BE SOLELY DETERMINATIVE OF A CONTRACT EXTENSION OR NON-RENEWAL. SO WE CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW WHAT THE WEIGHT IS WITHOUT HAVING THE EVALUATION, WHICH IS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING, HAVING THE EVALUATION TOOL READY TO GO AT THE TIME OF THE CONTRACT SO THAT THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, LIKE TRULY WHAT THEY'RE BEING EVALUATED ON AND WHAT THE WEIGHT OF THAT IS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. MAYFIELD WAS KIND OF ASKING. HE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON ONE OF THESE GOALS. IT MIGHT BE EIGHT OR IT MIGHT BE NONE OF THEM, BUT HE REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THIS IN THE CONTRACT. BUT SO DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I MEAN, I GUESS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH. IT'S NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL GOALS. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S KIND OF LIKE FOOTBALL.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU RUN FOR 1000 YARDS, IT MIGHT BE THE GOAL. BUT IF OUR GOAL IS TO WIN TEN GAMES AND WE DO, I MEAN, THERE'S I THINK THAT I THINK THIS PROTECTS HIM FROM ALL THOSE METRICS. IF THAT MAKES IN MY OPINION, THAT PROTECTS FROM HAVING ONE. METRICS PREVENT HIM FROM BEING EXTENDED OR RENEWED, I THINK I THINK IT'S A FOOL'S ERRAND TO TRY TO PROTECT MR. MAYFIELD FROM THE VAGARIES OF SOME FUTURE BOARD. YES. I DON'T YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT SOME FUTURE BOARD DOES. WHAT WE CAN DO, THOUGH, IS WE CAN CONTROL HOW MR. MAYFIELD EXECUTES IN THE NEXT YEAR TO MAKE WILSON COUNTY THE BEST POSSIBLE SCHOOL SYSTEM IT CAN BE, I. WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IN WORRY ABOUT WHAT OR WHAT A FUTURE BOARD MAY OR MAY NOT DO.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. MAYFIELD, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND FOR PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE. AND MY SECOND COMMENT WOULD BE THAT IF THIS HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED
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BETWEEN THE CHAIR AND MR. MAYFIELD, THEN WHY ARE WE GOING LINE BY LINE AND PICKING IT APART? I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS THAT ARE LISTED IN THIS CONTRACT.THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. I WOULD AGREE WITH THIS CONTRACT. I WOULD SIGN THIS CONTRACT. I WILL WORK HARD TO ACHIEVE THESE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, I CAN TELL YOU. HOLD ON A SECOND. I CAN'T FIND IT. I HAVE A PRESENTATION TOMORROW MORNING. ALL RIGHT. THE NUMBER ONE THING I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE I WAS PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT IS THE METRICS FOR WHICH I'M GOING TO BE EVALUATED. AND WHAT MY PLAN IS, IS TO AND TO ELICIT THE SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'M GOING TO DO IS MAKE SURE I BUILD TRUST IN ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. I FEEL LIKE I'VE, I, I STARTED THAT YEARS AGO. I, THERE'S A FEW MORE PEOPLE THAT I NEED TO GET ON BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T WORKED WITH ME. NOW I CAN DO THAT. AT THE SAME TIME WHILE I'M WORKING TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THESE GOALS, BECAUSE MOST OF THEM KNOW ME, AT LEAST THE LEADERSHIP DOES. I AM IN A UNIQUE ADVANTAGE TO THE OTHER APPLICANTS YOU HAD BECAUSE I'M, I'M IN THE DISTRICT AND I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROLE AND I'VE BEEN IN THE OTHER ROLES. I FEEL LIKE I CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS. NOW, AM I GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WHENEVER I BRING YOU INFORMATION ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT HAS TO HELP MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. TEACHER RETENTION.
IT'S A LOFTY GOAL BECAUSE TEACHER RETENTION GOES RIGHT BACK TO THAT HEALTH CARE ISSUE.
IN ADDITION TO OUR SALARY SCHEDULE AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE TEACHERS LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT JOB. SO IT'S NOT JUST THESE GOALS AREN'T JUST ON ME, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO EVALUATE ME. SO LET'S JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE WANT TO HIT THESE. AND IF BUT I'LL DO WHATEVER, I'LL DO WHATEVER. LET'S, LET'S SAY FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, SINCE ME AND YOU WERE THE ONES THAT DIDN'T NEGOTIATE THIS, AND I'LL TAKE MISS KIM'S. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU JUST SAID IN CONSIDERATION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AS IT'S WRITTEN.
SECOND MOTION TO AMEND. TO POSTPONE THE VOTE UNTIL MELISSA LIND CAN BE HERE AND REPRESENT HER CONSTITUENTS. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IS THAT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION? YES. DISCUSSION. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON AND APPROVE. I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. AND THIS AMENDMENT TO DELAY THE VOTE UNTIL THE 11TH WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO POST THIS THING ON BOARD DOCS AND LET ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT IT, LET US CALL US AND TELL US THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT IT. LET US CALL US AND GIVE US THEIR SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. BUT THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE CONTRACT OR I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO PICK IT APART OR HAVE ANOTHER SESSION LIKE THIS, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS UP AND LET PEOPLE LOOK AT IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE POSTED AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IT IS THE CONTRACT THAT YOU BROUGHT IN HERE AND GAVE US A COPY OF MR. PADILLA, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS. I WILL I WILL ADD THAT. HAVE YOU GOT ANY INFORMATION FROM THIS SCREEN? BECAUSE I'VE HAD INFORMATION THAT THERE ARE NO STATE TARGETS FOR ATTENDANCE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW. SO I HAVE FOUND I DON'T SEE STATE TARGETS, BUT I HAVE FOUND OUR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS ATTENDANCE RATES, OKAY. BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO STATE TARGETS, IT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT GETTING RID OF THAT LANGUAGE. BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO STATE TARGETS TO HAVE, WHY HAVE THAT IN THE CONTRACT? SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, OKAY, MISS SHERRY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ON THE 11TH, WE CAN SEND A COPY OF THIS CONTRACT OUT AND JUST ANNOUNCE IT AGAIN. IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT POSSIBLE? WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BEFORE WE DO THAT IS WHATEVER WE NEGOTIATED TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. SEND IT OUT TO THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY, AND THEN SEND THAT VERSION OUT. AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK ON THE 11TH, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. IT'LL BE VOTED ON. THEN PEOPLE WANT TO AMEND, TAKE THINGS OUT, DISCUSS THINGS. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING AGAIN. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE CAN PLEASE COMMUNICATE WITH MR. MAYFIELD ABOUT THESE ITEMS OR THESE TOPICS. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? SO YOU HAVE ONLY 48
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HOURS. OKAY. AND WE CAN PUT WE COULD PUT THE. SO I GUESS I'LL ASK THE BOARD, DO WE WANT TO PUT THE VERSIONS WHERE WE MADE UPDATES NOW, OR DO WE JUST WANT TO PUT THE VERSION THAT YOU GUYS CAME IN HERE AND WALKED WITH? WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? I THINK THE FINAL VERSION IS WHAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. WELL, THE ONE THAT WE MADE CHANGES TO TONIGHT, SHOULD WE PUT THAT WITH UPDATES? THIS IS THE ONE WE SHOULD SEND OUT. I'M ASKING THAT. SO THE ONES WHERE WE CHANGE THE BUS, THAT'S THE BEST THING WE'VE GOT. RIGHT. OKAY.THAT IS. SO IF WE HAVE THAT TO YOU TOMORROW MORNING, IT'LL BE FINE. BE POSTED BEFORE 6 P.M.
OR LET'S SEE, WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING FRIDAY? FIVE. YES. SO WE NEED TO POST IT BEFORE 5 P.M. OKAY. MR. MAYFIELD, CAN WE MEET TOMORROW AT SOME POINT ON YOUR LUNCH? FIVE IN THE MORNING, SIX IN THE MORNING. YEAH. WE CAN FIND A TIME TO MEET. OKAY. I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER THIS. SO THE MOTION RIGHT NOW IS TO. TO DEFER AND TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL OUR SPECIAL MEETING ON JULY, I'M SORRY, JUNE 11TH AT 5 P.M. RIGHT HERE. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF AFTER REVIEWING THIS, AND I KNOW I HAVE A SHORT WINDOW TO DO SO, AND I WANT TO MAKE CHANGES, I SEND THAT TO MR. MAYFIELD AND COPY MR. JENNINGS OR. YES. AND MR. J.
IT'S OKAY TO TO COPY MYSELF OR SO. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY THOUGH, IS WE'RE ALMOST AT A POINT, THOUGH, TO WHERE I THINK THAT WE SEND IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND WE DON'T UPDATE OR CHANGE ANYTHING ON THAT CONTRACT UNTIL THE NIGHT OF THE MEETING. I TEND TO AGREE.
YEAH. SO THAT SO SO WHEN WE WALK IN HERE, WE ALL HAVE THE SAME SLATE AND ANY NEW IDEAS ARE BROUGHT UP, THEN THAT'S A GOOD PLAN. SO OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW QUESTION SORRY. YES. WHICH VERSION ARE WE SENDING OUT? ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE. ARE WE INCLUDING THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE TONIGHT? YES. I WILL GET WITH YOU ON THAT TOMORROW AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THOSE ARE THAT'S CLEAN AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD. SO IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION READY TO VOTE. AND MISS LYNN WILL BE BACK.
THE MEETING IS ON THURSDAY THE 11TH, CORRECT? AT FIVE. YES, SIR.
MOTION PASSED. UNANIMOUS 1234 5 TO 0. OKAY. FINALLY. LET ME SEE IF I COULD FIND MY AGENDA. I WENT THROUGH SO MANY PIECES OF PAPER. I'M SORRY. OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS. MISSIONARY. CAN YOU READ OFF? PROJECTS FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2626. DOES EVERYBODY HEAR THAT? OKAY, SO
[4.1 To Confirm Educational Capital Projects Fund for FY Budget 26-27]
THE NEXT MOTION IS TO CONFIRM EDUCATIONAL CAPITAL PROJECT FUND FOR BUDGET. 252627 MISTER ED, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THIS, SIR? SURE. I GAVE YOU ALL A PACKAGE. IT'S JUST THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.MR. AARON MAYNARD HAD CALLED ME LATE MONDAY EVENING. HE SAID THAT PER THE STATE'S REQUEST, WE NEEDED TO JUST EDIT THIS NUMBER FROM THE ORIGINAL 70 MILLION TO THE 117 941019 STRICTLY FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES. SO JUST PRESENTING THAT THAT CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT IN THE BUDGET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IS JUST AN ESTIMATED BUDGET THAT WE PRESENT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY COMPRISED OF JUST THE BOND ISSUANCES THAT, THAT WE PAY OUR EXPENSES FOR, FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY GOING ON. OKAY. I'M, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOU HELP ME WITH THAT. WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY ARE WE DOING IT? NO, YEAH. IT'S FINE.
SO ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PACKET THAT I GAVE YOU ALL, THERE WAS ONE NUMBER HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW A THE SMALL NUMBER OF 117 MILLION. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. SO THE, THE WHOLE, THE GIST OF THIS FUND IS ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST JUST A BUDGET, OUR, OUR BONDS. SO WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS THE BONDS AVAILABLE FOR US TO DRAW DOWN AND WE PAY OUR CONSTRUCTION
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PROJECTS. AND SO MR. MAYNARD, WHEN HE REVIEWED IT AND HE WAS INPUTTING THIS INTO THE STATE, WE NEEDED THIS NUMBER TO BE REVISED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BALANCE PER THE STATE'S PRESENTATION. AND SO WE LITERALLY JUST HAD TO REVISE ONE FIGURE IN ORDER FOR THE STATE TO ACCEPT THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED, WHICH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS FIGURE THAT I CHANGED IS JUST FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN. SO, I MEAN, IT HAS NO IMPACT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE THE UPCOMING YEAR. AND MR. MAYNARD IS THE COUNTY FINANCE DIRECTOR. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. MR. MAYNARD IS THE COUNTY FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH HIM ON EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECTS, BECAUSE WILSON COUNTY ACTUALLY ISSUES THE BONDS AND PROVIDES THE MONEY FOR THAT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? JUST ONE. WHY DID WHY DO WE NEED TO BRING THIS, THE SPECIAL MEETING? IS THERE A TIME WAS THERE A TIME CONSTRAINT ON THIS OR. YES.SO I SPOKE WITH MR. JENNINGS AND THE THE TIMING OF IT IS THIS THIS PAST MONDAY. OKAY. WE HE CALLED ME AND IT WAS TOO LATE TO ADD IT TO THE JUNE 1ST BOARD MEETING. SO IT WAS KIND OF A BACKWARDS. WE PRESENTED IT THURSDAY. THE EDIT AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. OKAY. PENDING BOARD APPROVAL. SO. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. SO THANK YOU SIR. SO BRINGING IT HERE TONIGHT JUST TO INFORM YOU OF THE ONE EDIT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I THOUGHT YEAH, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY MADE OKAY I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IT WAS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT LAST MEETING IN ORDER TO ADJUST THESE NUMBERS. IS THAT WHY? NO, IT WASN'T A MEETING. MR. MAYNARD CALLED ME MONDAY, LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON WHEN HE WAS PUTTING THIS INFORMATION INTO THE STATE'S BUDGET PORTAL. IT KICKED BACK THAT THIS THERE WAS AN IMBALANCE IN THE INFORMATION PRESENTED AND THAT WE JUST NEEDED TO EDIT ONE NUMBER IN THIS CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IS JUST AN ESTIMATED FUND THAT WE PRESENT AT THE STATE'S REQUEST. AND SO JUST, JUST, JUST TO SATISFY THE STATE, WE EDITED THIS NUMBER AND WE CALL IT FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS NO EFFECT IN THE BUDGET WHATSOEVER. IT JUST CREATED THE THE BUDGET TO BALANCE AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THAT'S ALL IT WAS. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT $117 MILLION. MOTION PASSED, UNANIMOUS FIVE ZERO. OKAY, SO BEFORE WE LEAVE, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER REAL QUICK THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MEETING AGAIN ON THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 11TH AT 5 P.M. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO, WHEN YOU DO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THE CONTRACT AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING A PUBLIC NOTICE. BUT I HAVE MADE COPIES.
EVERYBODY OF THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I'LL PASS OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S A PART OF THIS. AND ALSO, IF YOU READ THE CONTRACT, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS CONTRACT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE POLICIES AND THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY MIGHT BE LISTED THERE. SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE REDUNDANCY IN THE CONTRACT AND IN OUR POLICIES ARE ALREADY THERE, JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING AMENDMENTS IF WE'RE GOING TO AMEND THIS CONTRACT AT ALL. SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE BREAK? JUST A CLARIFICATION. 5 OR 535 OKAY, 5 P.M. 5 P.M. AND WE'LL GET THAT NOTICE OUT TOMORROW BEFORE BEFORE FIVE. AND WE WILL GET THE CONTRACT. MAKE SURE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE AS WELL. OKAY. ONE THING I KNOW I BRIEFLY BROUGHT UP THE EVALUATION TOOL. DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AT ALL IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH HOW THE EVALUATION IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE, HOW THE THE CONTRACT WILL ACTUALLY BE EVALUATED? I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT FIRST, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED AND NOT INCLUDED. AND AFTER THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED, THEN WE APPROVE THE EVALUATION TOOL. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST ME. I'M JUST ONE BOARD MEMBER. I MEAN, MISS OWENS, IS THAT HOW YOU THINK IT SHOULD WORK? OR I WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS APPROVE THE CONTRACT FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHAT YOUR EVALUATION TOOL IS GOING TO BE, INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN THAT CONTRACT. DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATED, MR. MAYFIELD? YES. I THINK HE'S FINE. LIKE I SAID, HE WAS FINE
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BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. UNCLE. UNCLE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.SO WITH THAT BEING SAID,
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